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rulers choose what foods to harvest, etc, and you only become involved if a) you are destroying the source of enemy food, or b) you come to command army/rule civ, but even in b), you will only make 'high level' decisions about food sources and the like, not specific decisions about places, workers, etc.

I have just thrown in salt...

simply let the player rule by decrees and so only decide upon the percentage of the arable land thats available for farming and if its for basic or good foods.
keep in mind that while basic foods usually only takes a season to harvest, cattle takes time to get a large enough heard and fruit trees takes time to grow.

let salt increase storage time and trade distance of meats.

Yes, definitely - a la 300 (or similar), small elite forces should be more than able to survive against many times their number of poorly equipped/trained/led foes.

Depends, if there's enough people it can become a stampede instead. And in that case it does not matter if the foes in front does not want to die, the mass just can't stop.
The roman soldier would be the best to sustain an assault like that, and while pikemen might keep them at bay for longer, as soon as they're past the pikes its bad.
Basically, the situation 10 vs 100 is worse than 1 vs 10.

And never, ever put wooden platforms within your hellevator, especially if you don't have a Lucky Horseshoe, because that will render your hellevator useless.

Or you make it wider than 2 blocks and just place platforms on one side?

Crop cycles etc - I am going to put in seasons, so I suppose that will effect crops etc! Hmm. I'll have to think a bit more about exactly how to program that one...

I guess you'll abstract the farming so that no specific type of crop is selected which means that the harvest time should be averaged over a time.
Say that crops is harvested and delivered during all of autumn. Although i've forgotten how to to the math for it and the name in English, Take the total crops yield, spread it out over all of autumn starting and finishing with a low yield while it peaks during mid-autumn.
Well, This is just for a temperate climate area, which means that if you're going to implement tropical or warm climates you're going to have to increase the harvest time and yield due to multiple harvests.

thanks for all the great ideas, anyway .

I'm full of ideas and inspiration, I just dont have an outlet.

Hmmm. I see what you mean. I'm not sure how resources are going to work yet; I don't want anything AoE-esque, where you need to (or need to be in a city that does it for you) gather wood, iron, etc - but at the same time, there obviously needs to be a limit on the amount of tempered steel you can make weapons from. I suspect I will end up deploying a resources system, but one that is primarily under-the-hood, and the player only has interaction at the 'output' end - setting mining priorities, etc. But I think cities will appear in locations that are good in terms of rivers, food, etc, and then they will *develop* according to the military etc resources nearby.

Unless is a oppressive slave city, workforce allocation is not that flexible. Generally you would have an average with its ups and downs due to poor harvests, accidents or similar events.
When generating the world, you should allocate resources to regions with variables such as total amount, recovery rate(water & forest, max possible yield per time unit. A quality score between 1-5 (for unusable, poor, average, good, perfect) to determine trade value and desirability. This would reflect, for example, a marsh wood with fragile wood thats not worth using.
You could also add supernatural traits to the resource such as sentient forests, nature spirits infested waterfalls or leviathan occupied lakes.
Right now i can only think of the more obvious resources; Forest, minerals, water(lake, river, ground water, springs and oases) and arable land.
When all city sites has been designated, it should check the adjacent ones and examine their resources to determine imports and exports. Say that only one city in the region has abundant arable land, then this city would probably expand its agricultural industry to sell food to the nearby cities as long as those has something that the farmtown wants/needs and this would in turn increase the population growth potential of the trade partner.
TL;DL Every city should end up with the following resource variables; extraction amount and potential, city consumption(local and trade agreements) and excess(what you can buy as an outsider)

Yay, thanks.
Now I shall do like New Guy and stand aside and give my endorsement to this thread

No i provide the Giveawaz and make it possible but peoples enthousiasm encourages me

Don't underestimate the power of free stuffs
Well, around here it's actually appreciation rather than greed

I loved this idea too. Industrial settlements could get a lot of trade agreements from other city and also make it a commercial settlement. Militaristic settlements could be aggressive and attack settlements with a high commercial and industrial score to support their armies. Religious settlements could attack settlements with low religion score and high science score and make it more religious.

On this i guess there is a need for abstraction, else all the different kinds of social structures would need a lot of planning, analyzing and coding.
Consider this; A commercial settlement depends on other settlements to develop, thus the other settlements need to be generated first as the C.Set would probably be developed on a crossroads between other cities that do trade and have desirable resources.
Basically, unless abstracted, every city would need to examine the available resources, such as minerals, fertile ground, forests, strategical value.
How did it develop? Serfdom, slavery, freemen? Mercantile or free trade?

Religious settlements could attack settlements with low religion score and high science score and make it more religious.

Depending on URR's take on gods(divine dictating vs clergy politics), unless a theocracy wishes to expand and conquer, they rarely engage in hostile activities unless theres unrest at home. Whats better than a holy war for eternal glory to help those pesky plebs forget about the high taxes?
And i assume that this is a standard fantasy world, meaning that a science attribute is rather mislabeling. Technological advance would be to have sewers, aquaducts, irrigation and such things, rather than the Christianity vs free thinkers that you seem to envision.

URR, If you have time and interest, i suggest reading Malazan books of the fallen series by Stephen erikson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Erikson
Its a good source for ideas.