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I'll add an option for it in the next version. Flipping the normals (or more accurately reversing the polygon winding) should work though. I always thought anti-clockwise winding was normal 

Somebody else was having a similar problem. First thing to try is updating your video-card drivers. Alos if you have a card with a low amount of video ram it could be filling up. This looks more like a 3D acceleratot/driver problem than a VF bug, since the code it's running after 'Loading Textures' is not particularly complicated. Does this happen every time (even on different maps), or only on one map?

Incidentally, sorry for my lack of activity recently. I've been very busy and I'm taking a small break from the project to finish a Sword of the Stars campaign, but progress is continuing.

And thanks for the models, keep 'em coming! Unfortunately the one for bins isn't any use though, bins are technically an item and aren't detected by VF.

Ah, the extra water layers you describe must be a bug I added when I last fiddled with it. I'll fix it.

I did always plan on adding a tint to the camera underwater, I just haven't got round to it yet.

And you won't be able to see magma/water through walls in the way you describe since a) walls aren't transparent and b) the sides aren't drawn anyway when they can't be seen.

Quote from: Baboonanza on September 17, 2009, 07:25:34 am

It will also load .ojb format, though it will ignore any .mtl files as there is a different system for materials.

I've fixed the water and ramps problems in my dev version.

Yea the water tends to act like, um, chunky jello when it's simulating a flow or waterfall. In VF I mean, not DF.

The chunky jello effect is unavoidable, as it's exactly how it is represented in DF. It's just less obvious in DF because the way in which it's represented hides the details. If you closely examine falling water you will actually find a stack of tiles some of which have 1-2 water and some of which are empty. Smoothing this out in and representing it in 3D would require a very clever and complex algorithm, though it should look better after I add mist in.

The problem I've fixed was the strange angle on water sides that you got when water flowed over a constructed floor.

I agree  that it would be nice to differentiate between walls built with stone and walls built with blocks. Implementing it depends on:
- how hard it is to detect the difference
- how easily I can add it to the config files (it's a bit of a corner case)
If people would find me an example texture that they would prefer that would help.

After having thought about it a bit I really like the camera clipping idea, it avoid many of the issues and should be fairly straightforward to add.

You can control the colour of glass yourself fairly easily. In the matgloss.csv file there is a row for green glass and a number like 0x801010F0 (I don't have access to the config files at the moment, I'm in a hotel lobby, so this number is wrong). The first 2 digits are a hexidecimal transparency value between 0 and 255, so 80 means 'half' transparency and FF would be totally transparent.
It's not currently possible to have transparent walls because of technical constraints, namely the need to depth sort the individual triangles and the addition of extra internal geometry at material boundaries.

Love the screenshots guys! There are some truly epic fortresses out there.

Not currently, though I guess I should probably add one.

The original files are here thouhg: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=1307

I've just posted a new version, 0.802.

Changes:
- 40d16/15 support added
- Fixed invisible metal statues
- Fixed strange bridges (both the wonkiness caused by noise and the stretching)
- Improved noise generation/application. Buildings appearing in little depression is somewhat unavoidable I'm afraid (short of disabling geometry noise), but I've added some addition smoothing so it should be less obvious now.
- Fixed some smaller bugs with ramps, falling water, roads etc.
- Empty layers are now trimmed during map-loading to reduce memory overhead and slightly improve performance.
- Fixed cameras

Link: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=1272