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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Game Over!
« on: March 29, 2012, 05:37:44 pm »
And I'll also apologize to Urist for my error.
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Are Rebels not scum just as much as Cybrids are?Don't be cute. Answer the question.
You sound very dismissive of the work we have done thus far.Yeah, I didn't mean it that way, I was just a little bit surprised at what was written. Sorry for that.
Servant Corps: If you were a rebel, which role would you prefer?Martyr. If you are being a target of a lynch, you can use its Daykill ability to still serve the Rebellion (they are more non-rebels than they are rebels), while at the same time not ending the day, so that the non-Cybrids can still continue to hunt Cybrids.
Servant Corps: Let's say you are a Cybrid, if you would choose, what role-type are you most likely to pick and why?Machinator//Infiltrator. You get to choose your scumteam, and thus can receive backup and assistance from them. Machinator//Parasite also allows you to choose your scum, but it's essentially a serial killer; one lucky lynch, and the role's out of the game.
Servant Corps: Let's say you're a Rebel Persuader. How would you pick your targets so that you don't hit either officers or cybrids?I don't. I would honestly be too paranoid to pick targets accurately, so I wouldn't do so unless I'm absolutely certain the person is not an officer/cybrid. And by absolutely certain, I mean we're at endgame and everyone (officers and cybrids included) roleclaimed. Then I would begin selecting non-officers targets, in the hopes of swaying enough votes to win.
Simple: I can't help but notice your "subtle" attempt to group yourself with the Imperial side, there.Toaster: What would the main benefit for a player to group himself with the Imperial side (assuming he is not actually an Imperial)?
To answer your question literally, if your scum team plays badly it'll probably best for the Imperials as the other faction will be pouncing on your missteps. To answer the question you meant to ask, probably the Cybrid side- the human infighting will allow them to accomplish their goals in the background.
I don't understand. What roleclaim information makes his story untenable?Essentially, that's correct. The roleclaim information revelaed that there was an individual (Bookthras) who went to him twice who was later NKed, and Urist said he was still alive due to being protected when that was not the case. I didn't confront Urist about it because I thought the behavior was enough to self-incriminate, and I wouldn't trust what he said anyone. He could have been "mistaken", but combined with his already suspicious pilot roleclaim, I wasn't going to tolerate him.
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The middle part is interesting though. Are you referring to the fact that he suspected he was still alive due to being protected? What about that makes you think he's scum and not just mistaken? Did you ever bother to confront him with this information?
The last part also sounds like working backwards. Imiknorris could have been using his roleclaim to lure out pilots, therefore he was and is scum.I couldn't see any other legitimate reason to roleclaim other than to lure out pilots.
Town is paranoid and thus if we were both town, we'd be mislynching each other.It's not an ideal situation, but it was something I expected would happen, and since I didn't expect people trusting each other, that raises some suspicions.
I ask because both me and Jim have explained this before, so I'm wondering if you wanted to hear it again or haven't been paying attention or didn't care until now or what. Seems like a combination of "Didn't care until now" and "Didn't notice it before."That's about right, and Urist brought it up, bringing it to my attention. I'm sorry for not reading it when you explained this before...but at least now it's dealt with.
Is that about right? Why does it suddenly interest you if it didn't before?
Yes that's right, there was a Coup d’état (I hate the pronunciation of that word so much) in Mali yesterday, today being March 22 obviously. So apparently for a while some nomads have been rebelling in the north of Mali, and the army has been fighting them. The army asked the government for more weapons so they could go kill some more angry nomads, and the government was like no. So then the army began protesting, because the soldiers felt the government wasn't supporting them. Then some Malian government guy tried to diffuse the protest yesterday, when the soldiers were all like the equivalent of "fuck no" In bambara, 'cause that’s the lingua franca in Mali, which is ironic because French is the official language, people also speak 40 other African languages in Mali, and began to throw stones at him and bow him. He got out ok but later that day some other guys in the capital also decided they’d had enough and stormed the presidential palace, only to find out the president had left.
Here I was thinking West Africa couldn't get any worse, but then some guys in Mali decided to prove me wrong.
* Link to good summery of Malian situation provided by Servent Corps http://sahelblog.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/on-the-apparent-coup-in-mali/ . Will add highlights of article to main body of info when I have more time
* Link likelihood of coups provided by Servent Corps http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/22/coups_making_a_comeback , same as above.
*links to Mali: For Mali: http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Joins-Condemnation-of-Mali-Coup--143839706.html
Meanwhile, the coup in Mali is still ongoing, and may still fail. There is opposition from within and without Mali to the coup plotters, and there are rumors that the leader of the coup is now dead.
What's worse than a coup is a coup that doesn't quite conclude. The rebels are certainly going to take advantage of this instability in the mean time.
The capital of Mali is calm today, so it seems that if there was a counter-coup, it must have been crushed. There is still opposition however, as arrested ministers begin a hunger strike and lawmakers condemn the coup.
At least the coup plotters are finally dealing with the insurgency by, uh...talking to them outside of a strategic city the rebels want to conquer?
Something's not right. Something's dreadfully not right. I suppose one may think "something's not right" when a coup occurred mere days before an election, but it could be that the coup plotters disliked the politicians of Mali and believed no change would occur after elections. But when you're outright negotiating with the rebels you said you were going to crush mere days ago...
I'm not sure whats happening, but I don't think there is a single representative...
The article says it all, the former soldiers are not getting the stuff they need to fight the rebels. Not exactly a great booster for morale... and doing the coup probably did not remedy that particular problem. So yea, may as well get out while the getting is good.
Negotiating an out for those who don't wish to join the rebellion shows that they are looking out for their own. A good thing in my opinion, it shows that there is overall less malicious intent behind the coup nor a generalissimo deciding that he'd be a better leader.
Its something more along the lines of being backed in the corner/fed up by whatever mismanagement/logistical problems that have plagued these soldiers.
I can't say much about the rebels or anything of Mali. No clue of the place there, but that is what I got out of the above talking to rebels article.
That's probably true. Since the rebels are well-armed and had experience fighting in Libya, I can see some military units decided to overthrow the democratic government to seize the government just for sue for peace.
The United States has cut military aid to Mali, but have not yet decided whether Mali suffered a coup or not. Officially, it's a mutiny.
EDIT: There's a news article giving us more detail on the rebels; I find this interesting.
Ecowas has announced that it had put regional troops on standby in case military intervention becomes necessary.We may be seeing an international intervention to put down this coup after all.
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There is a difference between not ignoring accusations and overreacting to them.The bolded part represent the edit.
I'm getting attacked, numpnuts. You want me to just ignore all the accusations against me?There is a difference between ignoring accusations and overreacting to them.