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Meanwhile, the coup in Mali is still ongoing, and may still fail. There is opposition from within and without Mali to the coup plotters, and there are rumors that the leader of the coup is now dead.

What's worse than a coup is a coup that doesn't quite conclude. The rebels are certainly going to take advantage of this instability in the mean time.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 08:22:48 pm »
Also, Dariush's result of Reporter and his actions are highly inconsistent.  If he's, for example, a standard dopp reporter, the crap he made up might just be part of his fakeclaim.  However, if he's alien infiltrator scum, why did he inspect as reporter?
Why would captor infiltrators have to be 'aliens'? It's possible for a Doppelganger/Human to try and actively sabotage us in order to help the aliens that previously captured us.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 07:19:54 pm »
You think it's LYLO and you're advocating LAL on people you don't actually suspect?
I'm not advocating LAL, show me where I was.

Quote from: Urist
Your target knowing that your vote is for 'pressure' removes any potential pressure that the vote could create.
Why would that be? Pressure votes can be converted into actual votes fairly quickly.

Quote from: Urist
You just want someone gone and don't care who.
...No, I want scum gone, and your actions make me think you're scum.

Quote from: Urist
Dealing with me? When have you dealt with me?
By having you still breathe right next to me and having to hear you continually speak.

Quote from: Urist
Awfully quick to claim nonexistent hypocrisy, aren't you?
Alright, I was wrong then.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 06:17:55 pm »
And that will not be a "pressure" vote. It'd be a vote to lynch. I'm done dealing with him.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 06:17:13 pm »
Here's something to note though. If Shakerag "checks out", then my vote is going to Urist I. His story is untenable due to the information provided by the roleclaims that make his explanations about Bookthras' protection/death more and more tenuous and the suspicious nature of his own pilot claim (which could be used to lure out other pilots for him to be NKed). Despite claiming that pilots are important, he has not been a night-kill target...the only way that makes sense if he was scum.

If he is scum though, that means that doppelgangers are not the only scum faction in this game though. But I'm fine with that. Scum=scum=scum.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:59:12 pm »
And still defending yourself
Does explanation of my actions count as defense? I honestly don't care if you accept it or not, I explained my actions (even provided the rationale for it), and that was it. If you don't accept it, fine, let's move on.

You done this before, tunneling a target like Urist and Bookthras. You backed off from both targets though. It's normal behavior from you, so I'm honestly not concerned. The only question I have is whether that behavior is survivor/scum-hunting-based or scum-based.

Because here's what I think - we're at Lylo, because there are still two scum left.
Here's what I think, there's only one scum left and we're at LYLO. We mislynch, we lose. If there's two scum left, then the game's essentially over, and there's no reason for me to continue because if we lynch one scum and the second scum survive the Run Phase, then they win when they get to the ship and escape. And if you believe that "kills are not determined by random chance", then the scum is not going to kill themselves.

You previously said that you assume that the game will continue when we reach the ship. That's fine, but that's not a "We've got to get it right." attitude. If we mislynch, and then a "town" gets killed, we'd have 2 scum and 3 "town", and that's when we've got to get it right.

In fact...

Yes, exactly - this is potentially our last day, because lets be honest, we don't KNOW what's going to happen tomorrow. I say we treat it as such - there's no guarantee we'll get another chance at killing scum.

For all we know, the rules could change tomorrow - maybe only 3 of us can fit on the ship or something, and we need to vote for the three. Or maybe we lost. Or maybe we win. Regardless, I don't want to take that risk.
GlyphGryph: What made you confident that there is 2 scum right now, when earlier in the Fifth Rest Phase, you were less certain?

no questions of your own for the lurker that finally showed up?
Because we're waiting for Shakerag to do "the other half of the two way confirm". And the "we" is intentional, you questioned me and not the lurker. Hypocrisy seems to be a null tell to me though.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:31:37 pm »
4 votes total needed to Extend the rest phase.
Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:28:52 pm »
The vote is for 'pressure'.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:28:29 pm »
you know, It said that in Mephs last post.
All Meph's last post said was 'total votes' in favor, which I didn't even get what that meant...until I read Meph's OP.

Unvote IronyOwl, vote Shakerag for now though.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:13:37 pm »
Quote
  Extensions: Extensions require at least 25% of the living players requesting an extension. Votes against the extension will reduce the counted number requesting (so, of 8 players if 3 vote for an extension and one votes against it it's still 2 for, which is 25%, which grants the extension.)
Extensions will extend the day by 24 hours. No more then two extensions will be granted on any given game day.

Alright, I'm wrong then. Vote Extend then.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:09:05 pm »
The opposition is entirely symbolic. You need 4 votes to Extend, and you already got your 4 votes, so you don't need any more votes at all. All I'm seeing is an individual frantically looking for targets.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 04:40:15 pm »
Quote from: Toaster
I don't like this.  You want Irony to answer, but you're against giving him more time?   You sure you don't just want him lynched?
Because if flavor matters, then a no-extension could slow us down and thus could lead to more people getting killed in the Run Phase, which means more potential targets die, putting the "town" at risk if it is already in LYLO. If targets are selected randomly, then scum could potentially die instead of town, but it's a risk that I personally will not take. It's essentially a Hail Mary maneuver that I don't want to risk. It really wouldn't matter, as there are 4 votes for an extend (GlyphGryph, Urist Imiknorris, Shakerag, and Toaster). I'll keep my symbolic vote of Opposition  though.

I don't want to lynch Irony automatically because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I am concerned that scum might want to push for an Irony lynch so that they don't get lynched. But Irony's non-posting-behavior is not helping him any.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 23, 2012, 01:16:58 pm »
Oppose extension, for the time being. If flavor matters, then not extending has the potential to lead to more people getting lynched in the night. I PMed Meph, and he said that I can only inspect people who are alive, so we need to modify GG's plan somewhat.

Urist Imiknorris: If Bookthras was sacrificial, if shortening does nothing, and if kills were determined by an entity within the game, why did nobody die in N3? If somebody targeted you in N3, shouldn't Bookthras die instead of you?

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...am I the only person concerned about the military coup in Mali?  ::) Here's a decent summary of said coup as well as its possible effects. There's also an article on FP about the likelihood of coups (answer: coups are not occurring more than usual and today's coups respect the democratic process).

I admit there's not much to talk about because 1) none of us live in Mali, and 2) power now rests with the military dictatorship, who is likely to hold elections on schedule anyway, and 3) there's a little Turaeg insurgency in Mali that gained military skills by serving as Qaddafi's mercs back during the Libyan Civil War. But Mali is a state that holds...oh, 14.5 million people. I think the events in Mali probably impacts my life far more than the death of Martin...a state is very privileged within international law.

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Mafia / Re: Bastard Paranormal 2 - Fifth Rest Phase
« on: March 22, 2012, 10:33:55 pm »
EBWOP: I should have said race OR role; I assume we're still trying to double-confirm.

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