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Just so we don't risk ties.


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did we actually get the prospecting information we have to pay for, or did they just prospect, discover, and keeping it for themselves?

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Either way, we need the tax or the mines. Neither is not acceptable.

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Relocate hurtlings. Give them some compensation.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 15, 2020, 04:13:35 pm »
Economist can have a general picture, but it is also essential to have a wide representation from people who actually operate on the fields.
An economist may say that football needs to be restarted, but he probably knows nothing about football and what it actually needs to function at the level needed. The head of the NFL however does.

Same for every industry, really. The economist can give a general direction, but for any actionable decision you need somebody who knows how the specific field works and what it needs to operate. The number of economists is probably smaller than it should be, but having representatives from pretty much every industry is essential, because you will need those competences.


I hope somebody with better mind for words and knowledge of the situation can explain better, but I'll try an analogy:

Say you are the president of a group of people (I don't know, the local book club maybe).
The group is falling apart, so you hire somebody to help build bonds within the group. That is the "economist".
The economist may propose a monthly lunch. That is good. It works. However, to actually implement that advice, you need to poll the members of the book club to ask their dietary needs and preferences, otherwise you end up with a lunch nobody eats and you are worse off than before. This is where industry representatives come in.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 15, 2020, 03:47:53 pm »
We'll get a social reconstruction when 4Chan decides to elect a social reconstructionist for the lulz. Biden is recognizable for his meme presence. Trump rose to prominence through his meme presence and an online grassroots campaign of weaponized nihilistic irony.


In other news, WWE Vince McMahon (among many glorious others) named as economic adviser, also what the shit even is this URL
Question, why aren’t economists on the list of economy advisors? This is like putting people that aren’t scientists on science advisor positions

That list of 20 names is just the most notable. The actual full list is much larger. Really, given the scope of the group it would have been more surprising to leave a WWE representative out. The article has a link to the full list, but there are economists.
From the (divided by groups but sadly otherwise uncommented) list I found Art Laffer which should refer to Arthur Laffer of the Laffer curve and Larry Lindsey as economists.
There is also Steve Forbes of Forbes (barring homonyms: list is just names, so I could be wrong) who is not an economist but surely has access to some.

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It should be noted that a feast costs economy, and it was said that the tax we just abolished is the only reason we had revenue.

Mind you, we just took the throne on a not quite stable situation and happiness isn't high, so we probably don't have a choice.

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But we must hope dwarves find something valuable while we can still afford to make a mine.

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I think McTraveller was talking about already scheduled maintenance on the roads, which could be done with much less disruption to traffic now that there is basically no traffic.

That said, infrastructure projects would be a great way to help the recovery.

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If somebody doesn't take medication as a general rule, something related to comfort like an headache probably shouldn't be the go to example (assuming it isn't proper migraines)
It would be better to give examples such an infection, or a bad flu or something serious enough to actually require medicines.

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Lets be fair however: Boris Johnson at least is sacrificing in first person as well.


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Well, Elon Musk at least is distributing 1200+ ventilors, with Tesla possibly starting to produce them too partnering with Medtronic. (not sure about the price of the produced ones, if they manage to)

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On the topic of chinese hiding coronavirus deaths:

Numbers could be underreported even without malice. In the most affected areas in Italy there are a lot of people dying out of the hospitals, which means that the cause of death can't be pinned down on the virus. In some places, people are reporting that the number of deaths above he expected number for this period is 4-10 times the number of reported coronavirus deaths. Right now I just heard it on the news, but maybe I should look for the actual published studies (or rather news articles, I really doubt they had time to peer review). And that number of course includes people who didn't have the virus, but other illnesses or afflictions which couldn't be cured because of collapsed hospitals.
Point is, it could be that China is being honest with numbers, and yet that there are more deaths than reported simply because they got overwhelmed like everyone else.

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By the way, local administrators and researchers in the Bergamo area are warning that deaths may be vastly undereported.
Basically, they checked graphs for the number of deaths and overlaid the coronavirus reported deaths. Coronavirus was already a big spike over the baseline... but exactly on top of it, total deaths reached peaks of 4-10 times (depending on location) more than reported coronavirus deaths. How many of those are virus related and how many healthcare collapse related is anyone's guess, but that is a lot of extra deaths.

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The thing is, McTraveller, governments have the power to pause rent, stop evictions, provide paid leave, and generally make the economy grinding to a halt not end the economy. Problem is, everyone over here is resistant to doing so... Why? What is so bad about ensuring we come out of this with an intact economy and a successful quarantine. Can't we have both?

Which makes me glad to be in Italy currently, since the government is doing many such things. I don't think it is pausing rent at this time( would be a mess to compensate all landlords), but it is pausing mortgages and allowing every company who wants or has to to send employees on leave paid by the state. And that includes a compensation , if small, to self employed as well. The amount is limited due to crippling debt and already crippled before virus economy, but it will probably help a lot both companies (don't have to keep payng employeed) and workers ( who aren't fired)

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 22, 2020, 04:45:05 pm »
The political class is perhaps the most at risk group.

They all have frequent interactions with lots of strangers from all across the nation and world, and the average age is high.

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