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Do placed non-furniture objects (such as picks, idols or such stuff) affect the room value? Because it wouldn't be that hard to move your artifact idol to the room where you want it to be using stockpiles. First, you make a stockpile which only accepts idols and takes from your finished goods stockpile. When your artifact is in the stockpile, you remove the rest of the stockpile and your haulers should put the non-artifact idols back.
If it doesn't affect the room value, it definitely should! I guess a real dwarf appreciates an artifact copper pick in his or her room.

Edit: Sorry, I'm tired. Ignore this.

No, I'm not talking about sand as a reagent (although it will definitely be possible later because of the glass furnace), but as a product.
I did a bit of Wiki-reading and look what we've got here:

The smelter cannot look inside containers for reagents; this means not only bins and barrels, but bags, coffers, et cetera. In practice this makes it seemingly impossible to use extracts of any sort (liquid, powder, and so on) in smelter reactions. It likely won't show up on the job list at all and, if it does, will result in immediate cancellation when a dwarf tries to select it from the job queue. Extracts can be the product of a reaction but since they must be stored, they will immediately be "spilled" upon creation and be impossible to store and use.

The bold stuff is the interesting stuff. ^^
The question is: What means "spilled"? I doubt it will turn the surface the smelter is standing on to turn into a surface functioning as a sand source, but the sand has to be somewhere.
The reaction would be like this, i guess:
[REACTION:STONE_TO_SAND]
[NAME:make sand from stone]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:1:STONE:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:NO_MATGLOSS]
[PRODUCT:100:1:SAND:NO_SUBTYPE:SAND:NO_MATGLOSS]Maybe, it's "POWDER_MISC" as an item token, but "SAND" seems quite reasonable.
On the other hand, we're talking about Dwarf Fortress here...

So, if sand is a covering or a wall or stuff like that, what the heck is inside the sand bags?

I think you could make a smelter reaction, too, but what would be the product?

Now, that's actually a reason to not post in caps.
Beware the power of the Catsplosion!

Your second paragraph just basically paraphrased everything I said in the thread about bath tubs. Great minds, eh?

Well, basically, but not entirely. Also, this paragraph is there to give my opinion and to sum up all the stuff you and others stated in many posts. I specified some of the possible game mechanics, too (for example that the public bath could be an activity zone). If Toady wants to have bathing implemented, he'll find a way, but I just said how it could work.

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The females are pink, the males are blue, of course

When they evolve, do they turn into GODLESS KILLING MACHINES WITH GIGANTIC DRILL HORNS AND ARMOR?

I don't know why but that makes me think of Gurren Lagann now... are you trying to reference that?

I was referencing pokemon.

I got that reference immediately. Am I strange?
Well, who am I talking to? I'm talking to guys building pointless, gigantic stuff because they can and butcher kittens because they want to. And the worst thing: I'm becoming one, too! O.O