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with a play now character i was well on my way to ruling the world with my chosen weapon, a stolen rope reed shoe.

i was killing wolves with it when one of the wolves i had knocked over grappled me with its legs and broke my arm, then choked me to death while the other wolves wailed on me or vomited and passed out. it seems that in the version i was playing, when a 4 legged animal has fallen over, its legs are suddenly available to wrestle with.

i had another adventurer get wrestled by a horse in a human town once after it had been knocked over. it was non fatal but the mental image was very odd.

also first time i ever played i somehow did not know how to swim up.

hmm, my memories of when i researched this with the aim of creating awesome anti hfs traps was -


cavein dust will knock them unconcious, and allow you to cage them. which is harder to do then it sounds. they can make for some really entertaining anti goblin measures, and you can sell them to the elves for profit. sof with their burn-anything-one-tile-away can be used for some pretty neat stuff. getting any of them chained up may be a challenge though. i use them as animal disposal, cautously, as horses, cows and camels can kill anything if there are enough of them.

the first fort i made that was really huge and had hfs had a mayor with this trait. she was my original expedition leader/broker, and i had her legendary in like 5 different proffessions. when i released the hfs all her cats were hunting in the lower levels and got slaughtered, along with quite a few dwarves due to my miscalculations.

she tantrummed over and over again for a straight year, getting unhappy thoughts for killing dwarves who came to talk to her and a few of her remaining cats. she also took down and killed several members of the fortress guard, who were wearing steel/adamantium plate and chain and were mostly legendary wrestlers. when they finally got her chained up she finally committed suicide by attacking one of my elite military hammerdwarves, who hit her back with his adamantium hammer and turned her into chunky salsa.

she also got a fairly respectable skill in throwing, and destroyed quite a few buildings. it was quite astounding. never had a problem with her till that point, she was a great mayor, she occasionally got happy thoughts from yelling at people and never made any annoying demands.

making such dwarves into military may not be the best idea, if they do tantrum more easily and often, they are likely to cause an amazing amount of damage. an unarmed dwarf beating several trained and armoured wrestlers to death is not something i ever expected to see.

there are risks if you are trying to train a thrower though. once the mayor had killed enough of her cats and one of her friends during a tantrum she graduated to insane shortly before she got hammered.

my goodness. can you post the map seed? i would not mind checking this creature out. ive never encountered any undead except for hoary marmots, goats and the like, despite a lot of trying.

are dragons made only of bone magma proof? im guessing marksdwarves are going to be useless, as are guys with spears.

hmmm. ive just found this thread, and just listened to the dwarf fort talk. im going to take a crack at this with superfast dwarves and kittens that give ungodly amounts of fat. i dont know how to do reactions without breaking stuff, and i have never ever made a bar of soap in dwarf fortress ever. it allways just seemed like too much trouble.

got a fresh version of df, got a world genning, getting too it right now. lets see if i can knock something out in the next few hours.

i really like the military elves.

im using mayday's pack from ages ago, and my elves mostly show up as the same. how do i get your elves in there so i can see them in adventure mode, and when they invade my fort?

this visual fortress thing looks really good. i especially like the trees, and the way different coloured stones show up. its pretty fantastic.

my best megaproject was a giant dam in a badlands map with giant natural valleys that had a brook at the top.

camels were forever getting into the inside of the dam, and around all the tight corners my hunters could not crossbow them, and would get slaughtered.

once a camel has tasted blood, it becomes a terrifying force of nature. i had to dispatch my champions to deal with several camels that got inside and managed to kill a hunter who tried to bash them with a crossbow.

also, in the ages ago fort where i caught a titan and tried to use it to kill off my tame animal population, the camels killed it.

so yeah, camels. the desert version of elephants, sortof.