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you dont even need the water to do the goblin killing. just take up the idea someone mentioned earlier of doing a looong hallway of these. when an invading force is in the hallway open the walls. wait. then close the walls up again to reclaim all the iron armor, which if things went as planned will be the only thing left.

the bonus with this is that you can do it to the elf caravans.

also, i have never actually ever gotten trolls, ever. though the first one to break a floodgate would get incinerated.

@othob rithol -

i like your idea about the general worldgen feature thread. it feels a little like we have allready talked the death out of the underground, and we cant keep suggesting new things till we find out exactly what toady is sticking in the next version. in addition, a lot of things that have come up have had to be excluded as they do not fit the underground.

also, you have done an awesome job organizing and policing this thread. much appreciated.

you can climb stairs or go up ramps while underwater. you can also climb down them to get below the surface. i used this to hide my adamantium gear in a fort i made a very long time ago, you had to jump into a pool, swim along a short underwater passage hidden at the bottom, then up a short set of ramps into a hidden room, which had an alternative exit.

if you are going to play around with that then make sure your underwater bits are very short, the normal df races cant live long without breathing.

also consider opening sealed rooms or collapsing bridges with caveins activated by levers and supports, as well as simply hiding entrances underwater, and forcing the adventurer to find ways to empty the resovoir to get in.

you can cage and release beasties using levers, but things you have tamed will die on abandon, and the caged creature must have a name or it dies as well. you can name them by feeding them dwarves or pets.

adventurers can see through grates, bars, and fortifications, pretty sure they would be able to see through windows. im going to test this though.

be very sparing with waterfalls. they are pretty nice, but slow things down horribly.

good luck with the fort, ive been hanging out for some decent places to go adventuring in for ages, and the traps and attactions thread has been grinding along ever so slowly.

Skilled Weapon of Choice
Skilled Shield
Competent Armor User
Wrestler
Swimmer

this, only novice swimmer. its all you need to be able to jump into water without drowning, and i train it the rest of the way. wrestling and armor use seem really importan to surviving your first few encounters. that and some redshirts. get legendary throwing or swimming and most people will come with you.

i did not know about that engraving.

that is awesome.

sadly you cant make crafts out of dwarfs if you are playing dwarfs, its a tag in the raw files somewhere. take the tag out and its ok though. this fort is awesome.

yarr, but for the rest of us who dont have the stamina required to learn c as a hobby, then game maker is a nice option. the executables you output with it wont be nearly as fast as doing things in c, but if your inexperienced then its easy to make pretty looking and reasonably functional stuff. also, nice going there with what you have put together so far, its looking good.

there was a freeware program out ages and ages ago called game maker that we used in high school programming classes to quickly and easily make pretty complex games using 2d graphics. you could even stretch it and do 2.5d games like doom and duke nukem 3d if you were knowledgeable enough.

a quick search reveals its still out there, though its no longer anything like the beast i once knew, it seems whoever is running it now is doing so to make a profit, through posting the games people contribute in a browser window.

heres the link http://www.yoyogames.com/make

i made a pretty extensive top down multiplayer shooter with this around 5 or 6 years ago, its very easy to use, extremely adaptable, and if you dont want to write using its fairly robust programming language, then you can use little drag and drop icons that represent the standard programming constructs, which should be enough to get a roguelike game off the ground. when i used it you could make games multiplayer over network, though learning how to code for that was a but much for me back in high school.