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i hope i havent jumped the gun ahead of mc dirty, but i sent warlord a short pm drawing his attention to this thread. im impatient to move past people who may no longer have the time available to contribute, as most people put their names on the list ages ago. and that was a really fast turn there qloos, nice going.

hahaha, this is awesome.

can i be a wisecracking random hallicinatory cheshire cat that appears to dispense totally reduntant advice whenever someone gets hit on the head? no hard feelings if not, way too many people want a cameo as it is. this is going to be interesting.

wouldnt pitchblende be associated with a god of corruption? last i checked it wasnt exactly a nice natural elf friendly growth promotion agent. i cant exactly see people seeding their garden with the stuff to get bigger vegetables.

fiction surrounding that sort of thing demands that instead of extra large coach sized pumpkins you end up with festering oozing carnivorous plants of doom.

i dont think giant turtles or really giant anything springing from radiation exposure is that good an idea for a fantasy based game like DF, it would be emulating the 50s giant pissed of insect line, which is pretty far from the medievil setting we are dealing with. still doesnt mean you cant have odd glowing plants and strange magical type things happening around radioactive ores, just so long as it stays original and true to DF, without the giant monster shadow of the cold war nuclear age theme.

that lignite in an iron bin thread is awesome, and seems like its going to open a whole new world of interesting things to do. i like the floodgate blast furnace idea. you could wall up your entrance way with floodgates and just open them to fry anything coming or going that you want dead. bonus is it burns up all that annoying narrow clothing the goblins drop everywhere and just leaves you with the iron.

perfect migrant killer, and perfect again for disposing of caravans. wagons are highly flamable.

also, legolord, the slapping someone over twilight is just the tip of the iceburg. in the twilightsucks forum someone linked earlier, there were people hitting each other with baseball bats, threatening people with flick knives, an artist was hit repeatedly on the head with a chair by a fangirl because he said he wasnt so fond of the way twilight portrayed vampires but he was happy to draw the characters anyway, and at the far end of crazy some primary school girls tried to down another in a toilet, some other girls ambushed the twilight hater they had targeted and broke her arm.

at the super extreme mega crazy end a girl in a chemistry class threw a beaker full of acid in someones face, and a 14 year old girl shot someone with a signal flare from her fathers fishing boat, causing burns and serious damage to the victims arm, and a charge of attempted murder. some of those cases involved people with mental illness, but a frightening number did not. twilight fans are very scary. also, the crazyness was not restricted to just fangirls, there were some very creepy guys doing stupid policeworthy things as well.

anyways, superweapons, anybody?

if water is going to be flowing over any indoor surface, and you have an underground water feature, then those indoor surfaces need to have a constructed floor or road on them. tower caps will pop up right through a smooth floor, and even worse will come up through an engraved floor, which can send dwarves crazy as their masterwork engravings are destroyed. you get the message "the impertinant vegetation has defaced a (dwarfname)!"

its incredibly annoying, and totally ruined one of my old forts which was full of a really complex network of waterworks that was used for all sorts of things. the tower cap saplings will pop up whenever the water drops below 7/7, and can grow even if they are in a channel that is filled to the roof. as soon as they hit full size they block the flow of water. and it turns stone surfaces into dirt, forever denying you the ability to smooth or engrave them ever again. pave or road those surfaces. rough roads use less stone, but need an achitect. also, if the designating stockpile method works as fobosic suggests works, then perhaps do that, although it may not work if you decide to abandon and reclaim, or come back as an adventurer.

this project is totally awesome. its also going to kill your fps, any large amount of flowing liquid and especially any waterfalls does that. if you can find the time to post grabs of your construction efforts on the map archive then do it, watching a big project unfold like this is allways great.

i heard making a fort on a town breaks shops from working in adventure mode, but this was several version ago. does this still happen? i feel like adding epic monuments and churches to some of the capital cities, but dont want to screw things up too much.

also, you cant embark on a parent civ. as in, when playing as dwarves you would need embark anywhere to make a fort on top of an existing dwarf city, though you can quite happily land on any other civ, elf, human, goblin or even kobolt if you can find them. as per this version though i beleive they will allways be friendly towards you, even the goblins.

what i would like is any more info about abandoned fortress sites and what happens with them over time. to date all of mine, even my ones built on chasms, dont really get populated by anything interesting, and remain more of less empty. tame pets die, anything not tame in a cage that isnt placed as a building gets released, and a lot of dwarves either die or wander off. the only odd addition ive seen is that sometimes, for some strange reason, there are traders with wagons at the site who were not there at abandon. any ways of making sure a fort will be full of creepy crawling evil things?

hah. onlyhestands talks of wrestling wildlife like bears and wolves to death. and his profile picture is of one Mr liver eating johnsen, one of those hardcore american pioneering types who probably did that sort of thing for real.

ive heard reccomendations for finding something like a zombie hoary marmot, disabling your own strike back response so you dont accidentally kill it, then lying on the ground next to it to level armor and shield use while you go away to make yourself lunch and watch tv.

also, if you are after wrestling, grabbing small helpless animals and methodically breaking every tiny bone in their body is aparently a good way to go. as well as whenever something gets badly hurt, falls over, or falls unconcious and cant fight back. although i dont know if you get the same xp bonus from unconcious enimies.

i think clothes stealing may also work to give xp to wrestling. aparently you can do this to sleeping people without waking them up. dont know if that is counted as stealing if you do it in town though.

not tried any of these things myself, but they are worth a go.

EDIT: oho, here is the thread i saw some of these things in - http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=30225.0

lots of good ideas in there. aparently using a weapon on anything asleep or unconcious gives no xp, but wrestling does. also, they reccomend finding something small, undead and mostly harmless, like the afforementioned zombie hairy marmot, and spending a few days attempting to strangle it to death, running away when exhausted. because zombies dont need to breathe it wont die that way, and you will skill up fast. i find that hilarious.

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awesome.