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curse you spartan.

my tired brain actualy beleived you for a few seconds there.

hah, beaten to the chemistry by legolord.

salt also has chlorine, which is very poisonous. you may have heard of it as mustard gas, which was used extensively in ww1.

so yeah, reactive and explosive things dont occur by themselves naturally, they are allways with something else and need to be extracted if you want them to go bang, and getting pure reactive sodium requires modern technology, like electrolosys.

which, interestingly, is why aluminium is so valuable in DF. prior to modern methods of removing aluminium from its ores, it was held as stupidly valuable because of how rare it was to find it in its pure metallic form. napolean III of france aparently had his second best set of dinner plates made of solid gold, and his very best set made from aluminium. which seems silly now as aluminium is now a cheap, readily available and widely used metal.

so if you get prior warning that your soon to be thrust into the distant past, take a bunch of old crushed aluminium cans for portable wealth.

haha. this has finally made me understand why my outdoor sparring area got filled with random clothes when i was training up my first squad in wrestling before i gave them axes and things. even sillier, because before i got around to getting a clothing industry going a bunch of the clothes outside got stolen by kobolts. i can just see thim watching the dwarf shennanigans from the bushes and waiting for an oppertunity. normally my forts have a barracks indoors right next to my stockpiles of clothing armor and weapons, so if it went on in previous versions i never saw it.

still, clothes is better then random limbs and internal organs, which is what im used to seeing in the training room...

collapsting stone survives, and in the cave in dust storm it scatters like crazy and normally makes its way to the lowest point possible. one really unfortunate thing it does do is destroy carved or natural ramps, which messed me around once with a large underground pyramid i was carving.

also, when you drop one tile of floor onto another below, the falling floor tile will change the tile of stone beneath it to its own type. as in, i wanted a massive dining room with domed roof, and now as a result of some accidents it has spots of rough microcline cavern floor mixed in with the orthoclase engravings. you could conceivably use this to drop bits of a valuable ore vein multiple z levels down into your nobles quarters to make a valuable engravable floor. when i get around to it ill find out if you can drop constructed floors for the same effect.

i had a huge fort on a chasm, cave river and magma pool. i had the water come up 15 or so z levels with a giant stack of pumps into a giant holding tank above my main hallway. where it cascaded down through some moats around my outside area and through a really complex network of drains and pools networked all through my fort, to make little waterfalls everywhere and wells in every dining room. the fps was so very awful, and it was unfortunately unexplorable in adventure mode as it was unbearably slow. i could also seal my entrance hall and flush any invaders into some very deep channels at the end, and put a waterfall over my main entrance. there was also a giant artificual multilevel cave with huge stalactites, two waterfalls and a river running through it.

currently i have a badlands map with a really really big cliff cutting one corner off, and a 5 z level deep pit near its bottom that would form a pool if only i redirect the river at the top over the edge. im thinking of making a huge wall to dam the entire thing. imagine the water pressure at the bottom from a 25+ level lake....

im thinking grates in the ground or in underground chambers that gush water straight up at a lever press to mash invaders or make for cool things in adventure mode. can i have suggestions?

EDIT: everyones projects are pretty awesome. bonus points to the guy doing karazan if he puts megabeasts and goblin invaders and things in cages all around the place to replicate the mobs and boss encounters for adventure mode, and makes epic loot available in places where you get it in the instance as well.

i have one with i think around 190 or 220 (depending on when my backup is)

it has a million waterfalls and things, but i can load it and turn them all off before i send it if you want, as you will never figure out the millions of levers i have everywhere. that will disable the fast flowing moat and some of the wells though. fort is huge, spans a chasm, and is somewhat confusing. world was generated in i think v39 something, but i moved to 40d. you can see which engravings were done in the latter as they show as little pictures.

it also has a somewhat larger then normal area, as i wanted magma as well as chasm, cave river and hfs.

just give me instructions on where to upload the save, or an email adress that i can send it to.

you people are inspiring me to try and make my dead dwarves have nicer resting places. i normally just give everyone save nobles several huge well engraved rooms with rows of nicely placed coffins. pets in seperate smaller but similar rooms. only really started doing it to avoid unhappy thoughts and tantrum spirals in case of surprise mass deaths.

last fort when i hit the HFS all my nobles tombs, which were stuck nearby to make them all more valuable, got trashed. the dwarves reburied the late kings bones with the peasants, which i liked. he was anoying.

current fort by chance has a cave on it, so i used it to bury people in initially because i had nowhere else that was indoors. its now become my labarynth graveyard, with hollowed out coal seams making more room, though this thread has inspired me to try sticking my military dwarves in iron coffins in a mountain peak magnetite cluster im digging through. and im trying to get my ludicrous number of war dogs stuck nearby.

any hints as to how to get certain dwarves buried in certain areas? processes people use to make sure their military get stuck in the right places? or do you very dedicated people actually give every last dwarf a tomb? because my industry tends not to support that sort of thing till late game, when i lose no dwarves anyway.

hope mr toady sticks in reburial options sometime soon. its so dissapointing having an area not quite ready for a champion or legendary dwarf, and having them end up buried somewhere random.

hehehe. skinning alive is more or less fatal through blood loss, or if the butcher is skilled, rampant dehydration. but we all know how really tough dwarves can sometimes walk around missing several major organs and get by pretty well.

i can so see a fell mood leading to the skinning alive of some legendary craftsdwarf, and the dwarf getting up afterwards, brushing himself off, and pottering around the rest of his life leaving a little trail of blood. bonus points if he ends up wearing his own skin as a legendary coat or something.

on a more serious note, i like the idea of better funeral preperations, and corpses wearing clothes and such. a lot of people talk about the roles of dwarven priests or some similar class in the game, and it would be great to have them do funerary preperations to give all the dwarves who knew the decesed happy thoughts.

if ghosties come in, maybe nobles not laid to rest in a way befitting their station could come back and cause you issues till you laid their bones to rest with the right amount of ceremony.

also peakama - im laughing very hard at your most excelent mispelling of emaciated. WE MUST EMANCIPATE THEM FROM THEIR MORTAL SHACKLES!

and how would a capture feature work?