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Yeah, your right, animals/goblins DO IN FACT smash right through thin natural and constructed floors.

I'd have to make it a solid wall then. It complicates it a bit, but I'm going to try it out.

I always thought that was a neat effect, even if it is a WHOLE LOT OF BLOOD.

I'd dump fresh bodies into the river for the visual effect, but I need those skulls for my skull throne and I just can't have them floating down the river...

Hey, I just got an awesome idea. An execution tower, high in the air, that dumps my prisoners and unwanted animals right on top of a narrow grate platform crossing a river. That way, the bulk of the useful stuff is recoverable, while all the bits and chunks that fly off land in the water and lend to the atmosphere of the place.

Not sure if this has ever come up before, but it seems to me that Dwarf Fortress is awfully scarce on civilization... I think the towns and mountain homes and everything else needs a serious increase in population. Human towns are unrealistically far and few between and the towns themselves not dense enough... a few wooden builds scattered over a wide area and very few people. Not even any stray dogs in town!

Maybe this suggestion is a little too broad so I'll break it down into things I'd like to see.

-Towns and mountain homes should not be so rare on the world map
-All the towns need a design overhaul, I believe thats part of the dev log, but they should be crowded, densely packed hives teeming with people, just cities are and have been in the real world.
-Cities should range from vast, established castles and sprawling cities to 3 home farms out in the countryside to isolated logging cabins in the wilderness.
-Many, many more people.

When seiges drawn from actual populations and the ability to send your military to other towns is implimented, I think its going to be extremely trivial to depopulation the entire world map in short order. After all, you can depopulate 80% of a goblin tower just by defending from that tower's first seige. As it stands now, its not that hard to depopulate the world with a single adventurer within the span of an ingame year...

I think there should just practically be an endless supply of people. Make cities more abundant, with less rules reguarding where they can be placed in the worldgen would be a good start. If cities become too full of people, make the majority of them stationary at a workshop or riverbank or in a farming feild to minimize that CPU-melting pathfinding.

If it becomes too much for Ledgends mode to track everyone, Make the legends mode ignore the majority of the population unless they do something noteworthy. Abstract causualties of wars and not listing the names of every single peasant that moved into an apartment. Perhaps even abstract and randomly generate the population of the city as you enter the town to interact with it.

If the World map becomes too crowded with cities, only display the large, important ones, and leave the smaller dwarven outposts and minor towns to be found by random or on the embark screen.

I dunno. Thats my suggestion. The world of DF has too much in the way of empty wilderness and not enough in the way of interesting cities to explore and commit genocides against. What do you guys think?

This idea has some merit, but I think the wounded friendly will depart on their own as soon as they are able, or they depart with the next trade caravan from their parent civ. The friendly wounded lays there on the bed and does not require any food or water, much like the goblin prisoners or animals, ect.

My idea is that wounded friendlies can be "sold" back to their caravan for some small amount of money as compensation.

This same mechanic could be used later to sell captive enemy seigers. Say instead of finishing off that wounded hostile elf they are tasked to bring them back to captivity once the seige ends. When the diplomat comes back to arrange a peace, the next trade caravan can trade off your POWs in exchange for randsom/tribute money or goods.

Thats more realistic then just ignoring the wounded caravan guard, or killing off incapicated enemy soldiers. Back in the day, prisoners were rarely executed, but often captured as slaves and sold for ransom.

I agree that some weapons a really powerful, and doing 30k damage to a body part is the same as doing 20k, is the same as 1k, unless they are an adamantine destroyer, or armok himself...
I like the alloy idea, making armor to die for, because there is always the kobold willing to stab you 500 times, and you need a good defense...
BTW, if there was a kobold attacking you, how do the counter-attacks work as far as speed goes?
For instance, i've taken my trusty hammer and attacked a horde of creatures, and i take a steap, 15 attack me, and they fly off in various directions in the time it takes me to move my foot...

Counter attacks are "free" movement/ speedwise. So the faster your enemy attacks you, and the more ineptly that enemy attacks you, the more free hits you get on them.

Yeah, at some point a dozen carp/wolves, ect will attack you all at once, and before its even your turn to go, most of them are spattered against trees and extremely dead.

Well, if you had a lucky shot, at a certian angle, and it penetrated far enough, with a good enough bow and a good amount of luck?[

The Moderate Crime Squad/ Military/ shadow government/ ect, sounds like an awesome end-game thing to impliment.

Most people in general are resistant to change and can see the bad aspects of just about everything. People are pessimistic, and generally have a healthy paranoia, especially when it comes to governments. I think a 3rd party force that acts against swings from the moderate in policies in a harsh, ideally violent manner would be awesome.

Then again, a significant moderate force would kinda kill the humor part of the game. The bi-polar conservative vs liberal war and you are either one of us or you are the enemy! sort of thing is part of the appeal of the game.

That said, the only suggestion that comes to mind is: Just rename the .22 revolver to .38 revolver so I think straight while playing the game.