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Actually a good explanation by Web.

Hm, so I am thinking Knightwing or NQT.

Web, you need the assist, so I will defer to your explaining why Knightwing is a good elimination.
Honestly...  Part of it is that I feel like Knightwing is a bit lurky and isn't commenting on the game as much as normal.  Lurking is something he tends to do as scum, so that's a bigger ding, but the second part is a lot more minor.  I'm also not seeing a lot of people as particularly scummy, and that usually means that it's someone that is particularly lurky, or someone really good, which means I paid more attention to Max, Jim, and Toony, but none of them feel like their scumselves (Jim would be the closest, but I don't see him just pyramiding his slogan if he were scum.  He's a lot less brazen as soloscum.)

@Web:
I can see that about NJW, since you never voted him or seriously wanted him dead today.

I don't get the impression you're lying about your role at all. It's not like when you were mally and clearly making up bullshit with your Eevee role.
Nah, no lies.  No point now, since I'm okay with either decision.  I'd prefer to not be voted out, but I'm not sure how well I'm gonna help Town to win this game.  Welllll, except for the Masonry with Max and Jim, that's just old-fashioned telepathy.

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See, I'm writing Mafia instead of Cult because I'm not really even thinking about the game, lol
What do the Purple Lucky Numbers do?
No clue.  I can make people lose 3 from their Purple Number as part of my "Make Hotdogs do bad things" Action, and I can give out a Hotdog that a Player can use to drop all of their Lucky Numbers by 3 to gain a bunch of boons.  I have no References on anything except my three different kinds of Hotdogs.
How would you kill someone with a hotdog? Are you willing to kill Knightwing instead of NJW?

My role seems really similar to yours because I also give out stuff that can lower people's Lucky Numbers although I can choose any color.
The Kill is a bit convoluted, but I have to give a Player all three types of Hotdogs, and then my "Bad hotdog things" causes them to die.  Each Hotdog has a potential downside, but all three gives each downside plus a side of murder.

I was also never going to kill NJW (Unless I had to), because the goal was to threaten to kill NJW so that Cult didn't Convert him Tonight or the Night after, since I'm fairly certain he's Town (And I had been trying to hint towards people the whole Day.)  I CAN use my Kill to kill Knightwing, but it takes 2 Nights to use because they need all three of my Hotdogs (Which each cost different amounts of AP), and then I need to use my bad Action, which is just a lot of Actions to Kill someone, and way too late to effectively kill anyone except as a last resort.

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Oh, wait, sorry, I also have a Reference for breaking people's knees, ya know, on account of being a Crime Lord and all, but that's for the bad hotdog Action.

664
See, I'm writing Mafia instead of Cult because I'm not really even thinking about the game, lol
What do the Purple Lucky Numbers do?
No clue.  I can make people lose 3 from their Purple Number as part of my "Make Hotdogs do bad things" Action, and I can give out a Hotdog that a Player can use to drop all of their Lucky Numbers by 3 to gain a bunch of boons.  I have no References on anything except my three different kinds of Hotdogs.

665
See, I'm writing Mafia instead of Cult because I'm not really even thinking about the game, lol

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@Web:
Why not vote NQT instead of Knightwing?

Do you think actual mafia are in this game?
Because I think Knightwing has a higher chance of being Mafia.

Not that I don't think NQT can't be Mafia, but I'm not really paying attention to this game.  I have other problems.  I'm really just reading off Max and everyone else whenever I get a chance, because I can't really find any energy to do anything else.

667
I give out Hotdogs.  The Hotdogs do tracking and stuff.  I can make the Hotdogs do bad things like Roleblock and Kill, if I use enough Hotdogs.

That's all.

Knightwing is dumb in thinking I can convert people with Hotdogs, or else I'd be trying to get everyone to buy Hotdogs.  Come on, man.

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I'll be honest and say I don't really care.

I am Town, but whatever.  I'm not gonna try this game.

I really am nonconvertible, Mafia-Miller Hotdog Seller.

No defense from me, feel free to Hammer.

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From the beginning of the game to now, Knightwing has behaved like classic lurker scum the whole day- tunneling on one target to be seen to do something but otherwise completely in the background.

Worth pointing out if we'd got rid of the biggest lurker on D1 in the last game, we'd have hit scum. And on the flip side, the person who posts the most is very unlikely to be a cult leader (though without lurkertracker, I don't know who that is, maybe me, but could even be Web).

All to say, yes, Knightwing is a good candidate for D1 elimination.

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I really don't see Euchrejack's NJW push. Maybe I'm being pocketed here, but NJW has had such a clear appraisal of the other players. He talks himself down a bit for no good reason. Well I suppose a cult leader, as solo hunting a rival leader (or leaders?!) can just act like fairminded town. In fact, townhunting is perhaps just as important for them as it is for the town. But still, I don't see the force in it. Not when there are other players who have laid low the whole day.
Don't overthink EuchreJack.  You're putting a lot of logic in it, and that's a bit unnecessary, because, as far as I can tell, EuchreJack believes that I'm Town (or that Tric is Town, who believes that I'm Town), and that NJW's stance is therefore categorically anti-Town.

However, NQT, I have a problem, which is that there's probably a second Cult Leader.  I do agree that Knightwing is probably correct to vote out, but that there's a second Player who might also be scum...  Do you have a guess on who you believe is the second (And if you think that the second is me, then do you have a third guess)?

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... On that note, think web is right about your NJW, you are Town. Please do not vote out webadict of all people?
Tric. I know this isn't what you want to hear. But I can read Web.

I read him in FBYOR6. I read him in U,Robot II after basically a single post. I had a decent fix on him in MVM 3. I generally know when Web is scum - it's not just that he always rolls it, because I didn't think he was scum in the Demon Mafia game. So I'm voting out Web. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I have a track record here.
This attitude is why I have to shoot you.  You do realize this, right?

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Pfp

I have never been a cult leader, no.

Thunderdomes are supremely dumb ideas. When do they ever catch scum? Web putting his neck on the line like this is either extreme confidence, having a rez, or he is just town. Hmm...

Very Boring Reveal

Web, my approach is counterproductive if it gets me killed D1. By throwing my vote around, I wanted to do all the normal thing— applying pressure, signalling my feelings about cases, but actually the secret extra thing I didn't want to divulge was that I wanted to generate a bit of heat against me, get close enough to the precipice that I wouldn't be a good conversion target (someone too many people hate). I always play to my wincon and this was my way of doing it. Saying what I wanted to do spoils the approach, so congrats. But dying also spoils the approach.

So there you go. Still want to Thunderdome?
Not a bad choice.  Would you be up for voting out Knightwing?

672
Why not wagon NJW2000, then Web can kill someone else tonight?
...

Jack, are you saying you don't think that NQT or I are scum?

673
I do?
Hm, perhaps I'm mistaken.  It seems odd that no one except Jim (and somewhat Toony) has claimed anything about the numbers, and you usually will say stuff.

NQT

I'm fine with this. Four hours until I end up going to bed. Maybe 6.

Knightwing, can you give me an opinion on Egan?

I dunno, I haven’t seen much from them, maybe I just skipped them unconsciously I dunno
No offense, Knightwing, but you're probably going to be last minute wagoned unless you show you're Town.

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... What happens if two Cult Leaders end up tying the vote?
The NOTE is probably not correct.  I'm just lazy and change that manually for each game, but this one had no reference, so I did nothing.

Also, Knightwing knows what some of the Lucky Numbers do.

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Mhm.

You’re rubbing me the wrong way, Web.

Webadict

Don’t get comfortable Jim, I know how u operate. I’m still suspicious
Wanna explain further, or just remain vague about it?

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