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Weregiant tortoise would probably be effective since giant tortoises are 50% bigger than a grizzly bear and have RETRACT_INTO_BP. Note that "giant tortoise" is not a giant variant creature so it should be were-able (the giant version is called a "gigantic tortoise"). Speed might be a problem.

I believe that weretransformations are affected by body size of both the transformer and the creature to be transformed into but I haven't seen a good explanation yet. Nonetheless I believe werebeasts are usually larger than either form.

What will happen to subterranean animal men with SWIMS_INNATE who transform into a nonswimming form while submerged?

Incidentally if normal-type animal men can become werecreatures, a sperm werewhale sperm whale man would be an ungodly avatar of brute strength.

edit: actually arena tests suggest that all werecreatures have SWIMS_INNATE

Think about it: Would YOU want to live next door to a weird scaley person with a viper's head

Hell yeah that sounds awesome

Bent double, like old beggars under XXpig tail sacksXX,
Knock-kneed, coughing like night hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Dwarves marched asleep. Many had lost their +boots+
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
!!Ash!! !!Ash!! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a !!dwarf!! in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a clown's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro Boatmurdered mori.

By and large, the Improved Farming thread was about how to best make the player capable of understanding and interacting with a complex system that at the same time was as minimally micromanagement-heavy, and as much automated as possible.

You've crystallized the heart and soul of DF to me. It's a kind of complexity that doesn't arise from expanding the raws or adding features, but that is also likewise not a product of procedural generation in the way that terrain or forgotten beast features are. It's the sort of complexity that is the result of careful and thoughtful systemic design that allows complexity to emerge on its own yet remain meaningful and manageable (albeit frequently teetering at the edge of cataclysmic collapse- this is Dwarf Fortress, after all).

Well, if it's going to be this optimistic in here, someone has to rain on the parade...

It'll be pretty much the same thing, with a few more feature updates that people lose interest in quickly after getting them (especially since most of them will be for Adventurer Mode, or will be creatures whose weaknesses are thoroughly exploited and weaponized until boredom sets in), and people will still be looking at the devpages drooling over the possible glory if everything could ever be fully implemented.

The people that have been around the longest will complain more about how much better the game was with their favorite bugs and exploits still around, and how there is "too much magic" and "too much realism" at the same time.

haha yup

also

• 25 more kinds of gibbons, giant gibbons, and gibbon men
• the much-requested ability to finally embark with both prepared giant pangolin pancreatic membrane and barrels of giant pangolin pancreatic fluid
• bigger migrant waves
• more description of individual dwarves' appearance and personality traits in a way that makes it seem like every dwarf is both cripplingly deformed and dangerously obsessive/unhinged, yet that somehow fails to differentiate them in a meaningful way
• more bad thoughts
• more specific mood requirements that they won't tell you about
• even more granularization of farming tasks- who's ready for a migrant wave of legendary irrigators, salt-dryers, composters and haybalers?

we also can look forward to "Urist McDwarf bashes the goblin on the upper surface of the metacarpal of the 3rd finger, left hand, chafing the outer epidermis, fracturing the sesamoid boine and tearing the hypothenar muscle, separating it from the deep flexor muscle!"

oh and of course a user interface that doesn't immediately frighten off 90% of new or prospective players and pose serious usability problems even for people who have been playing for years

ok that last one might be a little farfetched

Hi!

Since the cat bug has been fixed, there is no modding need for me. However, I dislike the square look of things, so I have a stretched version of the standard 800x600 tileset, which I use to have a game that looks right to me.

As for init options, just the standards of INVADERS and ARENA turned off, nicknames centralized, boxes for citizen and pet messages (it is a pity there is no option for marriage announcements) and pop cap 7 (not that it really works that way )

Yours,
Deathworks

===> HOLY SHIT GUYS, DEATHWORKS IS BACK <===

Incidentally, I love the tooth explosions in the new version. It's like your enemy is a slot machine and hitting them in the mouth is like getting 3 sevens in a row.