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Essentially what I'm asking for is to be able to process foods that are also consumable raw to get the seeds. .... Essentially, if you just wanted to grow plump helmets and ignore the food industry, you could do that

How is processing a plant that you'd otherwise leave on a stockpile ignoring the food industry?

If you wanted to run a food industry based on multiple crops, which will hopefully be more in-depth than "grow sweet pods and quarry bushes" once Toady finishes fleshing it out, you could plant plump helmets and process them into cookable paste instead of brewing them

You can do that now.

[EXTRACT:mushroom mush:5:0:0]
[EXTRACTVALUE:20]
[EXTRACT_BARREL]
[EXTRACT_COOKABLE]

Or you could add [EDIBLE_RAW] to sweet pods.

I believe that the pump system would have to go something like this, unless I'm overcomplicating it:

#.pP_#
#_Pp.#
#.pP_#
#_Pp.Pp.Pp.Pp.
####_##_##_##mmm

#=stone
.=space
_=floor
m=magma
Repeat as necessary, and have fun sorting out the power supply.

You almost certainly won't be able to stop a 1/7 magma layer forming in the pit, but pumping the remaining magma into a single tile will make all of it available for further pumping. Assuming 5 units of magma are left behind, you'll be left with 30. That's enough to fill 7 linked squares to the 4/7 needed to power a magma building, but since you're not going to get 7 workshops out of it you might as well leave it at 6 squares.

That's all speculation though. Take it with a hefty pinch of salt.

(edited to add pump tower. Note that there has to be a space under the impassible tile of any pump on top of another.)

The dude can't even drink without going unconcious! I try and keep him from doing anything....

Promote him to pump operating, if he's not getting social skills.

Hard physical labour never killed a dwarf, so therefore it must make them stronger!

Since retracted bridges don't retract any particular way, can an enemy destroy them? I'd imagine not, but I wondered if anyone knew for sure.

A small fortress of thirty or forty dwarves can't eat the mushrooms faster than they're planted, and while brewcooking can alleviate the problem it will eventually be removed.

Maybe I'm having a critical imagination failure here, but why grow a plant in the first place if its only use to you is to produce seeds which will grow into plants that have no use other than to be processed into the seeds of useless plants?

When barrows arrive you could skill up a planter by giving them busywork until they're good enough to be let at the food crops, but that could be achieved in vanilla by planting thread crops (no container needed for processing) and either passing the processed goods onto the caravans or destroying them entirely.

I'd be happy with an [EDIBLE_WHENPROCESSED] tag though. You might be able to make something called jam at the moment, but it's inedible until cooked.

It's hard, because we've got beliefs over the real world mixing with our beliefs over what the fantasy world should model, and confusion over how to model a characters beliefs in a world where we the players know the truth.

We know a truth. With a videogame, creator changes revelations after the fact and alternate interpretations can change the truth about the game's gods.

eta: Just to clarify, while we do know what's going on it's easier to think about the issue if we pretend we don't.

Yeah. Instead of flashing blue / dark blue, they flash blue / purple.

I made some professions-only graphics that were very similar to the ASCII ones (I used the same colours as the default ASCII), but some professions are flashing the wrong colours.

Crafters: blue to purple
Stoneworkers: cyan (intended change) to l. grey
Miners: l. grey, no or slight change
Engineers: displaying correctly
Farmers: d. yellow to greenish d.yellow
Admin: displaying correctly
Metalsmiths: displaying correctly, or close enough

Any other colour of dwarf, I haven't got.

Is this normal? At the very least I'd like to sort out the stoneworkers and the crafters, since they're quite annoying as they are.