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I make one change to the raw files. I change Longland grass from BIOME:GRASSLAND_TEMPERATE to BIOME:NOT_FREEZING.

How have I never seen this thread before? This looks amazing.

Is there a wiki or an overview of what you hope to make the game look like when it's "done" (or as done as such things ever are)?

By the way, I personally would appreciate an official human thread like the other races have. I've played around with humans for a little while, and I think it would be nice to have a place specifically for them while development is still ongoing where people can post their thoughts, ideas, and questions.

One exists.

Ah! Well, that's a comfort. I thought my comments had been overlooked entirely.

Anyway, loving the mod so far, and I think it's a good idea to continue on DF2012 until 40.x is (reasonably) stable.

I'm liking the playable humans so far. My only complaint is the extremely fast anti-cave adaptation. I would recommend increasing the time required for it to happen by a factor of 2-4 times. This would still prevent living underground, while at the same time making shaft mining viable, yet keeping pit mining incentivized so you don't have to worry about it at all.

Quote from: Pwnzerfaust on July 07, 2014, 09:04:59 pm

Quote from: Samarkand on July 07, 2014, 07:36:56 pm

Just buy cutebold torchbearers. Problem solved.

Sorry, not super knowledgeable. What is this?

From what I gather, you can hire little adorable doggy things that hold torches from the aforementioned little adorable doggy things at their stall or some such. Haven't actually played humans yet. Distracted by DF 2014.

Oh fuck, it's out?!

Quote from: Jaso11111 on July 06, 2014, 03:04:25 pm

Yea getting the gold necessary for the money exchange building is near-high impossible when combined with the human's weakness at mining.   

Open air strip mining, but then again for those of us who prefer not having vast swaths of ground torn up for whatever reason, strip mining leaves imports as the only option.

'Course I'm also of the opinion that reverse cave adaptation is more of an annoying arbitrary decision (what with a single day passing exceedingly quickly in fort mode, never mind a week or more) to force you to stay on the surface and makes even doing shaft mining, even just to figure out what exactly you have without ripping up tons of shit you don't want, extremely difficult/impossible.

I may give this version a go to see about that for myself, but I'm not liking the forced strip mining stuff that seems to be required and is painfully inefficient even by human standards. Then again I'm also against strip mining period because it often results in unnecessary map clutter that takes forever to get rid of/make any kind of use of.

I have to echo this sentiment. While the concept behind penalizing you for trying to live underground is sound, I think 1-7 ingame days is far too fast. After all, humans have for millenia used shaft mining to gather materials.

So I propose lengthening the time before hallucinations, etc. kick in. Perhaps a month in-game? That'll still effectively prevent underground dwellings, while allowing for shaft mining, yet still incentivizing open-air pit mining.

Thoughts?