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Yes they have. They took illegal drugs. That's a crime.Quotewhy shouldn't people under the influence of drugs be jailed, even for one night?Becuase while they may have a higher chance of commiting a crime. They have not commited a crime.
Wrong. It's more like, "Statistics show that people who use these narcotics will likely commit other crimes. Therefore, these narcotics should be forbidden, and those using them should be locked up for their own protection, and the protection of others."Statistics aren't facts and pre-emptive attacks based on statistics are based on assumption.It's not an assumption. It's simple statistical fact that people on drugs, and people addicted to drugs, are many, many times more likely to commit other crimes. The best way to deter it, and to pre-empt it, is to attack the root cause: drug use.And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.QuoteNot by doing unjust things.QuoteReally? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?QuoteAnd yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.I disagree.
"I assume this guy will commit a robbery becuase he is on crack"
It's not an assumption. It's simple statistical fact that people on drugs, and people addicted to drugs, are many, many times more likely to commit other crimes. The best way to deter it, and to pre-empt it, is to attack the root cause: drug use.And I told you why I think their unjust. The law makes an assumption. I dont think people should be judged on assumptions no matter how reasonable you think they are.It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.QuoteNot by doing unjust things.QuoteReally? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?QuoteAnd yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.I disagree.
It's not unjust. Did you fail reading comprehension in middle school and high school or something? I told you why those laws exist.QuoteNot by doing unjust things.QuoteReally? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?QuoteAnd yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.I disagree.
Sooooo. Shall we call it a stable time loop and get on with our lives?
Second that. Also...Spoiler: You will regret opening this (click to show/hide)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
So you feel justified in breaking the law, as long as you disagree with it personally? That sort of disregards the entire point of them being laws as opposed to suggestions. Hell, I'll bet a lot of murders think their acts are perfectly justifiable as well.Why do you follow the law? Becuase all of it's justified or becuase some of it's justified?
Really? You don't think the law should try to improve safety and order?QuoteAnd yes, anyone can hurt anyone if they really try. Intentionally doing things that cause this risk to skyrocket is something that should be discouraged.I disagree.
THAT'S IT!
Initiate it now!
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Did it work?
That's exactly my point. It's a closed system, therefore entropy in it will necessarily increase, on the whole. Not disagreeing with you at all there.
No he's fucking not innocent. Illegal drugs are illegal for the reasons I stated earlier. What you're basically saying is that you don't give two shits about the rule of law.I dont care if he broke the law. The law is wrong.But if he's on illegal drugs, he's breaking the law. Laws which are there because people sometimes do that because of the drugs.Yeah I do, but this guy never robbed or murdered anyone. You cant associate him with things he did not do. He is innocent.QuoteHe did illegal drugs. Illegal. Against the law. Wrong. Understand yet?I dont think doing illegal drugs is wrong. The law is wrong.
I do however think doing harm to others is wrong. He was doing no harm to anyone.
Good god you're naïve. Do you have any concept whatsoever of the crimes associated with the drug trade? The robbery by addicts trying to score some money to get a fix? The murder by dealers and users who are trying to knock off competition, or just go nuts from their drug usage? Do you have any idea at all?
He could have hurt someone, but anyone can hurt someone. When will you get that I only care about what he really did? He is innocent.
Yeah, I know it's a closed system. But the fact remains that it will eventually run out of potential energy (the ability to do work).I think we have one perpetual motion device; It's called the Universe
Not really, no. Eventually everything will run out of potential energy and nothing more will happen. So it's not perpetual.
To put it in other words: The Universe is still a closed system. In fact, if you want to get ridiculously technical, it's the only system that's actually 100% closed.
