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Toady was having an out-of-body experience just to screw you over.

I see. Not bad so far. We can consider that a hi-res version. I'll keep working on mine to give further blueprints.

I chose the colors I'm using to make it easier to tell apart. I might paint it when I finish. I like the doorways, though I didn't intend to have windows there, but cool nonetheless.

Considering the scaling I'm using, I think the dwarven icons seem rather appropriate, being just the head.

Speaking of which, awesome lego dwarf.

PS- I noticed there are mindstorm items in the collection, allowing me to setup mechanisms. This lego-template is going to be riddled with detail. Plus, I can plan how it'll all go down.

Yeah, I tried building it myself. I got the bottom floors done + docking ramps from the ship (open of course), but working with an odd-number of tiles from DF blueprint with nothing but even numbered tiles is a bitch-and-a-half to work with.

Let's not forget, to retain dwarviness, I also used the flat bricks (dimpled) to make the floors. I finished the bottom 2 decks exactly as I designed it on paper at a 1:1 scale. Ugh... I gave up just trying to keep it consistent. I do know, at least, that the bottom floors can work; provided I keep things lined up well.

I may need to expand the cargo spaces a little more so I can support more cargo and trade goods (with the depot on 2nd deck), as well as fitting the steam canisters across all 3-Zs (water catch at the far edge of 2nd deck). It does help to color-code everything in that program, but the cel-shading makes it a little tough to measure correctly. Especially working top-down for most of it.

EDIT:
Why don't we go 1:2 scale instead (1 DFT = 2x2)? More tiles to choose from (making it easier to work with), and not as pricey. Furthermore, any details to add are simple enough to work with. Even the small cylinder pieces or turntables can double as chairs and color-coded 2x2s can be furniture. :shrugs: It could work. Flats can be floor tiles and 2 standard bricks = 1Z, allowing single standards = furniture.

I'm gonna try that out.

What happens if you mine off both ends of it? Does it then cease to exist?

I can just see it in legends now...
"In XXX Urist McMiner has killed an underground river."

How about the week after, we also come up with hypothetical worst-case scenario darwinism/deaths?

Essentially, "A god just freaking made you to see how badly you can fail, Urist." challenge. Example, a miner was finishing up his clearing of the shredder trap ceiling (removing, that is), until... da dum DUM!!!

Cave-in occurs, he falls into the chainsaw trap just after crossing the crossbow trap (removing an eye, but not killing him just yet, as well as his chest and legs being pincushions and a punctured lung) while a cage trap was JUST nearby. Seeing as there was a magma moat installed as well, his head was the first part to fall in, as the rest of his unrecognizable parts were collected by the local butcher and animals, and were then cooked into a stew.

All just by knocking himself out towards a trap gallery purely by a cave-in accident.

I read somewhere they do, don't remember if it was or in a wiki entry, i'll check.

EDIT: Nevermind, nothing happens if something falls on them, which is a pity .

From the wiki:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Contrary to what one might think, the spikes appear to do no (additional) damage if a creature falls on them. There is therefore no advantage to putting the spikes at the bottom of a pit trap and you still have to connect them to a lever or pressure plate to cause injury.

Unless you have someone at the helm of the spike device; IE- lever, toggle repeat. Just keep it on frappe and drop creatures on top.

That'll ensure the additional damage. They'll be unconscious, and the shredder will be on. Simple, no?

Okay, I did an initial no-mod experiment. (Before I begin my project; I want to enjoy this, not have FUN before construction commences. No muss, no fuss.)

Will a bridge (retracting in a direction) be capable of supporting a structure without collapsing? Well, no. But by miracle, the bridge itself, and the floor it was on remained aloft. That is, until I retracted the grounded bridge; that then made the unsupported bridge collapse.

If anything, I at least have an idea of how to setup the docking system now. Of course, cave-in will be shut off when construction commences. I was hoping I would only need to turn it off before disembarking. Well that idea flew like pegasus crap. Dropped from the sky, and hit the ground hard.

Though rather blasphemous to megaprojects; I had to savescum. Consider it a bad dream a designer had. Next experiment is waterwheel propulsion via windmills. Mostly for aesthetic effect. Hopefully it will work. To save time from experimenting it myself, has anyone tried this out before? Additionally, I'm going to experiment a multi-link with trigger systems for pilots.

Modifying the engine room, there will be 5 primary levers to toggle the primary engine blocks. In the cabins, there will be levers to toggle each of the individual propellers per wing.

There could also be additional levers for the elevators and ailerons. It's gonna be pretty complex, but the overall effect will be awesome .

Seeing as real life tends to get in the way, I'll try to get this done by any means necessary. This is too good a project to let up on.

EDIT:
Did further experimentation. Apparently, windmills cannot shut off, even if I disengage the gear mechanisms that it's linked to . So, it looks like I can't shut off individual propellers. However, waterwheels ARE affected by windmills, and can function without water being underneath it. HUZZAH! The illusion WILL work!!!

I can setup a total shut off switch as well.

However, I stumbled across something a tad interesting. Apparently gear/lever assemblies can be linked up to do binary operations. As well, if you want it to operate in boolean fashion, be sure to have an additional gear/lever for the desired area, or as a master control switch before the additional gears to be affected. One can make some interesting setups or puzzle games with this knowledge.

For example, in order to operate certain machines, a series of levers must be active; but to open the main passageway, sans active deathtraps, you must input the right number in binary.

How I came across this was by accident with my experiment, it was structured that I have 1 lever to toggle both gears (main axle, and windmill axle), and an additional lever linked only to the primary gear (linked to windmill).

Binary coded switches operated like this: 1st switch = Main axle, 2nd switch = Both axles
00 = Off
01 = On
10 = Off (though main axle is online)
11 = Off (WW axle online, though lacking power due to main being disengaged)

Expand the code, expand the possibilities, expand the megaproject ideas. Overly complex labyrinth anyone? Fun for adventurers; especially the programmable puzzles involving levers, and (if possible) pressure switches.

I'm sure the binary code thing works even better with floodgates and pressure switches. Plus, it should be cheaper to construct and easier to calculate.

EDIT 2:
Okay, it turns out floodgates can't be built in mid-air. So much for THAT rudder idea. Now I ask a question:

What furniture (that can be affected by a lever) can be built/suspended in mid-air? I want to be able to make a functional rudder. And regarding the binary operation I stated previously, you see where I'm coming from with this, right?

The elevators and ailerons are simple enough to make. The rudder is the primary issue at hand.