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We accept only *REAL* vampires in this fortress!

Sparkly posers need not apply! Only *real* manic/impulsive vampires will be accepted!


(One! One boulder of Orthoclase! Two! Two boulders of Orthoclase! Ah Ah Ah!)

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How did they fit him into the syringe? Is that what kids are calling it these days?

Oh wait! You mean he perforated his career!

My bad...

Mr NecroratoHead needs to be put away in his box when you aren't playing with him. You don't want him to lose any pieces now do you?

(Quiet whispers. I am sure MrNecratoHead needs his eyeballs intact. How else can he raise his minions to unlife, if he can't see what he is zombifying? He might zombify the booze on accident. We clearly can't have that.)

Had to restart my necropolis project, due to the save corruption update fix release.

New embark site is directly adjacent to a necro tower.  Invaders off to avoid premature necrospecial interactions.

Back to square 1.... glassworks industry is barely functional. Farming and booze production is stable. Initial barracks completed.

Stage1 fortress construction is underway.

Vampires would make the ideal beekeeper logic drones.

The closed circuit design would ensure they never escape, and the phantom hive bug will ensure they are purpetually occupied. That they never eat, drink, or sleep, and are strongly resistant to damage means that they will reliably power the repeater endlessly.

This causes other problems though.

Vampires will prefer to drink booze from the stockpile to maintain their cover identity, rather than drink nasty well water. (Even if it does taste like delicious dwarf.)

It has been reported that they will purposefully reduce their efficiency to suit the cover story if burrowed, and forced to drink water instead.

So, either we purposefully reduce their efficiency (isn't this why we are trying to integrate them safely into dwarven society in the first place?) To keep them from eatuing urist McCatlady's 15 worthless children and creating a tantrum spiral, or we keep the efficiency, and risk said spiral...

Proposed experiment:

Part 1: determine if booze can contaminate a well. (Drop a barrel from a very high place into the well, destroying it and spilling the contents inside?)

Part 2: should a well be so contaminated, does the watered down booze satisfy the booze dependency?

If both conditions are true, dropping all three of the source vampire, the normal dwarf, and the barrel of booze into the bloodletting trap should have 3 noteworthy effects.

1) dwarves drinking the nasty water will only have a bad thought, but won't experience a loss of performance associated with withdrawl.

2) dwarves who drink the nasty water will become vampires, boosting their stats.

3) vampires trying to hide that they became vampires will be sated by the normal dwarf blood in the water, preventing uncontrolled feeding.

I do not have any vampires, so I cannot fully perform this experiment.

Quote from: wierd on February 20, 2012, 01:31:42 am

I found that if the "poke hole" is also a 1x wide channel with the slope wall that leads to a floor one zlevel up which is the preferred exit path, even a moron miner/mason will be able to escape unharmed.

This is how I got magma out of the volcano and into my magma glass furnaces safely.

Personally, as an addendum to this plan above, instead of diagonal mined tile next to the floodgate, turn it into a fortification. This will keep fire imps and magma crabs from pooping bassalt and flaming flatulence on your furnace operators.

Better idea:  Forget that, and instead build the impassable tile of your workshops over the channel to power them.  But *GASP* this means you have to plan ahead and build your workshops in an efficient pattern or you need a very large room - with magma under it all for them.

I stil had magma crabs poop basalt on my glass makers, despite doing exactly that earlier. I had to savescum and reinvent the magma powersource for my furnace rooms so that it used a fortification instead of a poke hole.

Does it appear that magma is now pressurized?

I can confirm that magma is indeed faster, but does not suffer pressure. If it did, my glass furnaces would be vomiting magma.