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General Discussion / Re: "This is a big fucking deal!" - V.P. Biden
« on: March 25, 2010, 06:12:20 am »
Anyone remember John Smith and Smith Johnson, or whatever their names were from Futurama?

"Pathetic Human #1, Pathetic Human #2, and Morbo's good friend, Richard Nixon. May death come swiftly to his enemies!"

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You're acting like what the Republican party is doing is usual for a minority party. I sure can't remember anything remotely like it. They're beyond just "opposing" and into the territory of failing to act like grownups. Just refusing everything the other party wants to do, simply because they proposed it, and not coming up with anything of their own.

Well, it's usual behavior for the Republicans when they're a minority party. Remember 1995? The buggers actually *caused the Federal government to shut down* rather than negotiate with Bill Clinton and the Democrats. And it backfired on them bigtime.

Whereas the Democrats, when the minority party, lack the testicular fortitude to do anything other than a few limp-wristed "Hey, maybe you shouldn't blow your nose with the Bill of...oh, well, I guess I can't stop you. But you're mean."

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General Discussion / Re: "This is a big fucking deal!" - V.P. Biden
« on: March 24, 2010, 04:03:43 pm »
It's cheap political theater. Either side can fake outrage and harrumph about the other side's uncouthness and vulgarity, while the "offending" side basically says "Put your big girl panties on and deal with it."

Frankly, it cracked me up when Cheney dropped the F-bomb too, because it was so what I would expect from him. Biden's was more like Shaun White's coach at the Olympics--it was done out of excitement at knowing you're about to pull off a victory.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheists
« on: March 24, 2010, 03:56:20 pm »
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- The Catholic Church stands by the idea that if you never got the chance to hear about God, you don't go to Hell.
Then why do they continue to teach people about it?  :-\
Because (last I heard) the catch is you don't get to go to heaven, either.
Where, then, do you go, now that limbo doesn't exist again?

The Mohandas Gandhi Eternal Coffee Shop. It's kind of like that waiting area in the airport--there's a place to sit, some good but not great food, and some knick-knacks to amuse yourself with. FOREVER.

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General Discussion / Re: US House passes Health Care bill
« on: March 24, 2010, 03:43:21 pm »

And all liberals need to shut up, period.  Like I said, they are completely uneducated.  My guess is that most of them are young and naive, still live with their parents, are not married and have no real world experience.  Kind of reminds me of Obama: he never held a real job and is young and very naive.

I'd like to test my theory, how many who support the health care bill on this forum are still "dependents" of their parents?

Ahem. 34, Master's degree in International Relations, Bachelor's in history, married with two kids and own my own house.

You *really* need to rein yourself in before someone has to hand you your own ass in a sling, metaphorically speaking.

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This thread menaces with spikes of facepalm.  ???

The "War on Terror" is a rhetorical device and has never been about defeating all terrorist groups everywhere. Period. Maybe Dubya actually thought of going that far for about five minutes the first time he said it, but even he realized that was tilting at windmills.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheists
« on: March 24, 2010, 02:58:40 pm »
I think if I were Christian, I would be some flavor of Catholic (for one, they have the longest tradition of actual theology; and two, I like that they've retained ritualism. Ritual is important in a religion, IMHO).

Sadly, the Catholic *church* is one of the biggest reasons not to be a Catholic.

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Right now I'm reading Thomas Friedman's The World is Flat which is definitely worth a read for anyone interested in an naive technophile's view of the 21st century.

Fixed.


Sorry, I can understand. I liked Friedman when I first came across him too. And before the events of the last ten years showed that his vision of a world where corporate homogeneity "globalization" would obliterate poverty, war and hatred was basically a big ol' pile of bullshit.

Friedman was great in the late 1990's. Now he just seems quaintly unrealistic, like those books we all had as kids that said we'd have flying cars and personal jetpacks by now.


Right now I'm working my way through The Crusades Thruough Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf.

Some other books I'd highly recommend:

Nonfiction:
The Joy of Sects by Peter Occhiograsso
The Face of Battle by John Keegan (really, anything by Keegan is worth a read)
Not a Good Day to Die: The Untold Story of Operation Anaconda by Sean Naylor
Terror in the Mind of God: The Global Rise of Religious Violence by Mark Juergensmeyer

Fiction:
The entire Dune series, as already mentioned (though ONLY the books Frank Herbert himself wrote...not the garbage his son is putting out)
Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett



Oh, and this is always the answer to Atlas Shrugged:
http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif





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General Discussion / Re: Atheists
« on: March 24, 2010, 10:57:01 am »
That's why you're a reasonable atheist (or maybe more agnostic), and why Richard Dawkins is a stuck-up git.  :D

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General Discussion / Re: US House passes Health Care bill
« on: March 24, 2010, 10:54:06 am »
The former. Nixon wouldn't even get through a GOP primary these days. Way too pinko (Clean Water Act??? Commifascism!! How dare the government prevent the invisible hand of the market from washing itself in our drinking water?!)

To add to the confusion, in most Commonwealth countries, the Liberal Party are the slightly conservative market-friendly pro-business types. Who are still further to the Left than many Democrats in the US.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheists
« on: March 24, 2010, 10:44:33 am »
Quote from: dreiche2
Also, let me reiterate, personally I'm not opposed to people having personal beliefs, be they spiritual of philosophical or religious. I'm just trying to defend and stress the importance of rationality when it comes to anything but personal beliefs.

Problem with that being, for a person with deeply held religious beliefs, the line between personal and public/external/secular beliefs is pretty hard to define.


EDIT: I started to get into a long-winded discussion of the watchmaker God idea, but thought better of it. It's been hashed over by better minds than mine, and essentially goes back to the same argument:

"Evolution proves there is no God!"
"But God created DNA, transfer RNA, etc.!"
"Prove it!"
"Prove He didn't!"
etc. ad nauseum.  :P

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General Discussion / Re: US House passes Health Care bill
« on: March 24, 2010, 10:20:40 am »
Tarred by association sucks, don't it?
Kinda like when we marched on Washington to protest the Iraq war, and all the "liberal news media" focused on the fringe groups who got glommed into the movement, demanding everything from a free Palestine to legalized weed.

And I'm sorry--I know too many Tea Party types for that dichotomy to resonate much with me. Unless you're trying to point out that the "conservatives" are to the left of the Tea Party. Because that's certainly been the charge FROM the Tea Party. Why else have they been actively running against Republicans in primary races on the grounds that the GOP candidates aren't conservative enough?

If Tea Party != Conservative, then it's only because Tea Party = Reactionary.

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General Discussion / Re: "This is a big fucking deal!" - V.P. Biden
« on: March 24, 2010, 09:49:24 am »
But that's the GOOD thing about Australian government! The opposition is *expected* to oppose! It's their job! They even have their Shadow Government with little shadow cabinets and shadow titles and stuff.


Whereas here, the opposition is essentially expected to whine, bitch and moan but in the end accede to the majority party's demands, otherwise it's "obstructionism". (And yes, I realize the irony of me saying this considering I've slagged the GOP for obstructing the health care bill.)

Opposition by the opposition party in the US government is seen as so unpatriotic, that the only way to justify it politically is to make the majority party seem so diabolic that you can cast yourself not in the light of an opposition party, but a resistance movement. Which leads to all sorts of batshit craziness like Oklahoma City fun.

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General Discussion / Re: Isreal is playing silly buggers.
« on: March 24, 2010, 09:43:46 am »
Now I'm picturing a Jewish James Bond. This image deeply troubles me.

I'm picturing a portly, middle-aged man with frizzy hair stirring a glass of Manischewitz.
"Berkowitz. Shlomo Berkowitz."



Or else that Adam Sandler movie that I made sure to miss.

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DF General Discussion / Re: The Jasper of Infinity
« on: March 24, 2010, 09:20:27 am »
I always wondered what dwarfs chatted about when Attending Parties. I like to think this thread is an example.

"So Tekud...I noticed that fine jasper you carved...is it infinitely fractal?"
"Nae, dinna be daft man! Twould have infinite mass if'n it were! And how would I carry such a thing then, eh?"

"Hey, have you guys tried the plump helmet dip yet?"


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DF General Discussion / Re: The Neverending Fortress
« on: March 24, 2010, 08:51:26 am »
Me = disappointed.

At least build a pair of sphinxes flanking your entrance eventually. Which shoot laser beams from their eyes.

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