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Ukip is calling Theresa May, after latest Brexit shenanigans, 'Treason May.'
It took them this long to figure that nickname out?
Well, this *is* UKIP we're talking about. Nigel was the genius of the party. Without him, their memes are so dank they're positively frozen.

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EuroCorps is basically just NATO minus the US.

No. A European military would be the equivalent of the US military forces as opposed to the military forces of the individual states.
I guess that would come down to chain of command. If the component militaries no longer have direct chain of command to their respective nations, then yeah. I'm guessing it would be something more like NATO where there's a dual authority, shared between national military command structures and a supranational command. Neither Merkel nor Macron is going to hand over the reins of the Landswehr or the FAF solely to Brussels.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 03:02:51 pm »
I missed like a lot of pages but I am on the side that fights against Pigdog Scum. That sounds like pork I can't eat and I am unilaterally against that.
Welcome, brother! Take up arms against our oppressors and their questionable genetic engineering!



In other news

1. Laura Ingraham is losing her shit that there are four young, progressive, non-white new Congresswomen, dubbing them the "four horsewomen of the Apocalypse". (C'mon Laura...the correct term is "horseperson").

2. Mitch McConnell wrote an op-ed calling for bipartisanship and at the same time slamming the incoming House Democrats for being partisan before they've even been sworn in. Twitter has a field day with Mitch "One Term President" McConnell accusing anyone of partisanship.

3. InfoWars gets infected with malware snatching credit card info from its remaining followers. Alex Jones claims it's a conspiracy. Which is to say, a bear shit in the woods and the Pope is still Catholic.
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Infowars did not immediately respond to our request for comment but Jones sent ZDNet a lengthy rant that boils down to something like, I haven’t been pwned! It reads in part:

    The corporate press is claiming that a Magento plugin to the shopping cart was the point of entry, but that is not true. Infowarsstore.com has never installed that plugin. We use some of the top internet security companies in the nation and they have reported to us that this is a zero-day hack probably carried out by leftist stay behind networks hiding inside US intelligence agencies [...]

    The hack took place less than 24 hours ago; it is undoubtedly the hacker or hacker group that then reported this to the establishment corporate press in an attempt to scare business away from Infowarstore.com.

Jones went on to accuse “big tech, the communist Chinese, and the Democratic party” of being behind a sweeping effort to de-platform Infowars. We’ve reached out to Magento to confirm Jones’s claims that the point of entry did not involve one of the e-commerce company’s plugins and that he’s working closely with its “top security people.”



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EuroCorps is basically just NATO minus the US. And I suppose minus Britain too, if they insist on being Fortress Albion.

Given the very plausible potential for NATO to lose two of its biggest members, I can understand the drive towards an integrated European military.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 02:12:30 pm »
This is probably the longest-lived AmeriPol thread since 2016. *tennis clap*

Also, page 1776 is obvious the correct point to declare a revolution, you filthy Royalist pigdog scum.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 12:57:32 pm »
Yeah, I was about to say, HuffPo is no place to predict the future.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 12:45:56 pm »
Biden?
I love Uncle Joe, but no. Too old, too much baggage. Easy lightning rod for the Right to coalesce against. Would be an....interesting campaign though. If I could safely reset the timeline, I'd push for it just to see if the Presidential debate would turn into a three-round cage match.
Oh, I meant that as the equivalent of running Kerry in 2004.
Ah. No, I think Biden is more charismatic (hell, dry toast is more charismatic than John Kerry). But I think Biden's time is past. I think if he had run in 2016, he would have won handily. Now...I'm not so sure.

As to whether there's a big "disappointment" problem lurking for the Democrats, polls seem to indicate otherwise.

64% of voters who voted Democrat said they were happy with the results.
Only 34% of voters total were disappointed (and it can be assumed that that's going to be a roughly even split, or even larger for Republicans after all the #RedWave and #WalkAway memes).

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 12:33:34 pm »
Biden?
I love Uncle Joe, but no. Too old, too much baggage. Easy lightning rod for the Right to coalesce against. Would be an....interesting campaign though. If I could safely reset the timeline, I'd push for it just to see if the Presidential debate would turn into a three-round cage match.


It just takes a lot of elections, okay? :P
Sure, that's my point! No one election is the most important.
Or, the stakes keep incrementally increasing. "You are the tallest you have ever been" is an accurate statement for the first 20 years or so of your life.

Personally, I miss the days when the election was about "restoring dignity to the White House" rather than "preserving the Republic from collapse". Though as I pointed out, that election that we thought was all about who was less likely to get a hummer in the Oval Office turned out to be profoundly important, perhaps the most important Presidential election in 20 years or more.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 12:24:24 pm »
educate the lolnoobs
This is the crux of your problem, you see.
Which -- that I'm calling them lolnoobs, or that I think they can be educated?

I can't remember an election post-2000 that hasn't been framed as the most important election of my lifetime.
It's kinda true. And 2000 was way, WAY more important than people realized at the time.

2000: Meh, Gore and Bush are the same thing. (oh wait, they're not)
2002: Oh God, everything is on fire, we're at war with Al-Qaeda but we why are talking about invading Iraq??
2004: Oh my God, we made a terrible mistake, can we please get rid of this moron? (And the Dems punch themselves in the dick by running John Kerry)
2006: Can we at least get Congress to stop letting Dubya do whatever the fuck he wants?
2008: Ok, let's NEVER do that again. (Which is why the majority didn't vote for anything connected with Sarah Palin, i.e. Dubya in drag)
2010: Obamacare! (And the hatred of a poorly-sold compromise bill is what allowed the Tea Party gang to roll into DC)
2012: Hey, this has been a nice change of pace but now Republicans want to put rich white guys back on top of everything.
2014: Can we at least get a Congress that doesn't stop Obama from doing anything?
2016: Meh, Clinton and Trump are the same thing. (gee, why do I feel like I've heard this before?)
2018: See 2006.
2020: See 2004 (including my fear that the Dems will straight up take a jackhammer to their collective dick by running Clinton again, or someone else utterly flawed and uninspiring).


As to the assertion that "none of the policies have changed", that's complete and utter bollocks. This country is vastly different than it was 18 years ago, in a number of policy areas.

LGBT rights -- hugely expanded (gay marriage, military service, etc.)
Consumer rights -- we actually have the CFPB now. That didn't exist in 2000.
Banking regulation -- went through a trough of deregulation in the Bush era, then re-regulation in the early Obama years, and now heading towards deregulation again.

And that's all just off the top of my head.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:57:42 am »
Or, you educate the lolnoobs on why gridlock is preferable to the rubberstamp that Trump previously had.
Cast it as Thermopylae if you have to -- we didn't beat back the Persian army, but by Zeus, we held the line. And 2020 can be the Dems' Plataea, because whomever controls state houses controls redistricting.

Was 2018 the "most important election" (especially for younger voters)? Yeah, it probably was.
Will 2020 also be "the most important election"? Yeah, it probably will. Without turning the tide in 2018, 2020 is just a re-coronation of Trump.
Nations aren't fixed in a single election cycle, especially when they're this fucked up.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:31:58 am »
I see where you're coming from, but I still disagree. If people get unreasonably hype about a thing, then haz a sad when the thing isn't hype, even though the thing is demonstrably what it was *reasonably* expected to be, that just means those people are lolnoobs.

Nate Silver is not a lolnoob.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:13:48 am »
Democrats performed almost exactly to expectations, which were for a "blue wave." If people were expecting some fantastical shit like Democrats taking the Senate, their disappointment doesn't mean that a "blue wave" never happened- it just means that people are wrong about presuming that we're bad at predicting things. We're not.
If you can't tell why the failure to meet the hype means that the hyped-for thing never happened, I don't know what to tell you. It's exactly like in video games, you certainly must understand hype in video games, right? Like, off the top of my head, No Man's Sky performed exactly to reasonable expectations, but that didn't save it.
Umm, no. By your analogy, you're arguing that because No Man's Sky didn't meet the hype, it didn't exist. And that any articles pointing out that it did in fact exist are bad because they're just going to piss off gamers.

To paraphrase what others have said, if some Democrats were expecting to sweep Congress and impeach Trump on Wednesday, that's their fault for not paying attention. It was clear for weeks, if not months, ahead of the election that a Senate flip was not going to happen.

I think any disillusionment was that in the immediate aftermath, it looked like the Senate was going to be a major loss, tilting as much as 55-45. But then Tester hung on in Montana, Rosen won in Nevada, Sinema won in Arizona, the Nelson-Scott race is stuck in recounts, and the Mississippi special election is going to a runoff and the Republican candidate just shoved her own foot so far into her mouth she's shitting stillettos. Now you're looking at 53-47 as worst case, with a reasonable possibility of winding up 51-49, which would be a moral victory for Democrats, because it basically erases any counter-narrative that it was a "good night" for Republicans.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 14, 2018, 02:45:13 am »
I'm not sure what "interesting things" you mean; by all means, state them.
Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more squire!

@ZTG: You're going to have to do better than linking some bullshit YouTube vid by a known conservative shit-stirrer with a history of producing false documentaries (see "Stockholm Syndrome").

Quote from: Wikipedia
In December 2016, Horowitz's 10-minute film Stockholm Syndrome, which explores the "cultural and religious clashes between liberal Swedes and the recent influx of refugee immigrants", was released on FoxNews.com and YouTube.[19][20] Filmed in September 2016 in Sweden[21] it features what Horowitz described as "no-go zones". Horowitz said police told him that "when we're pursuing a suspect, and they cross that threshold, and there's about 30 or 40 of them in Sweden, they will not pursue".[21] The film includes audio footage that he says is of himself being "punched, kicked and choked" by Arabic-speaking men that he was trying to film in Husby, Stockholm.[22][23][24] Horowitz's commentary on the relationship between immigration and crime in Sweden appears to have influenced President Donald Trump's false claims on the same subject.[2]

Many of Horowitz's statements about Sweden in the film and in subsequent interviews were described as false by fact-checkers, news organizations and criminologists as well as Swedish authorities.[2] Two policemen who were featured in Horowitz's film said that Horowitz edited answers and questions to misrepresent them.[25] Two cameramen involved in the project later concurred, after reviewing the raw film, that the footage had been unethically edited to misrepresent the subjects.[26][27] Horowitz denies it, but refused to show the raw material.[28]

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I think the lesson here is to just flee the scene of anything these days. Your chances of survival are higher than waiting around for the cops to show up so you can die doing your civic duty.
Unless you're black. Fleeing anything while black is a capital offense, as has been proven multiple times. Apparently nothing is so dangerous as a Doppler-redshifted black ass pointed at a cop.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: November 13, 2018, 11:50:37 pm »
Ooh, I see we're having the perpetual "WHAT THE FUCK GUYS?" vs. "Stop calling shitty people shitty people, you'll upset the slightly-less shitty people" debate.  ::)



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