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I can do Mundo, Sion, Taric and Cho'Gath. Altough I dont build mundo full tank, I just get him a warmogs and a spirit visage (mundo is one of the few champions that can use both to their full potential), then an atma's as core items, after that I follow with whatever's more appropriate, either more tankyness or more damage. I also don't build taric as a tank anymore either, I build AP taric due to the sheer ridiculousness of his heals and even damage with spells, same with Sion. Cho'Gath is the only one I build tanky all the time because, well, he's cho, he's just that awesome.

I'm still only level 23 though, I need to start playing more again.

EDIT: Oh yea, I'm also a pretty decent Nasus, altough I never build him full tank, thats just a waste, I get a doran's shield, aegis of legion, sheen > turn sheen into trinity force, then build him according to whats needed after.

On your point in that last line, I for one can confirm it. I've seen people perfectly able to do a comeback surrender on my face. I've had people surrender on me when the enemy isn't even at our base turrets yet, and we had even pushed all their first turrets, but they surrender because the enemy happens to have 7 kills over them. Its ridiculous.

Anyway I'm slowly comming back as AP sion, not because my skill with him is improving (not like AP sion takes any skill), but because my teams weren't pants-on-head retarded, only a dumbass jarvan who wanted blue buff everytime despite me and AP yi being the most damaging champions in the team.

Me thinks thats silly, it just limits your number of in-game strategies against the enemy team and forces you to spend a looong time a single game.

And anyway, I sort of agree with Mindmaker regarding smite? Namely with smite being sort of useless in the late game unless you're trying to steal buffs/dragon/baron, which requires good timing and is pretty situational to waste a slot on. Not saying smite is useless by any means, but if your champion can get golem without it, it loses quite a bit of its usefulness. A spare slot for exhaust, teleport or another escape spell will be overall more useful then smite as soon as you're out of the jungle. Only bad junglers stay there till lane phase is over, since lane phase is the best time to gank.

Stealing buffs will give you an edge but thats it, stealing dragon is helpful though, and baron requires great timing to be stolen with smite, if you can reach it without stealth, but can turn the tide of the game in your favor if you manage to do it.

If you're going to gank alot and you can get your buffs without smite, other spells will improve your ganking and survivability by quite a bit.

There's only one situation were smite is useless though, as demonstrated by the garen in my team who used it to last hit.

I was doing well as AP sion, except jarvan (who autolocked and wanted mid) failed against ezreal and wanted to switch, so I go to mid, being 3 levels under ez and manage to farm and gradualy win over the lane. Eventualy we kill them a bit and equal the odds... Except top gave fiddle 20 stacks on mejai and he also had gold for a deathcap.

Needless to say it was already over. Xin would fight fiddle 1 on 1 even when fiddle was draining him, it was hopeless.

Teams lately have just been really, really, really terrible. A mass influx of bad xin yhaos, irelias and maokais, and people playinng jarvan and failing hard as him, even though he's pretty OP.

Wheeee intentional feeder maokai.

She's overall very easy to disable and unless you faceroll people and get a stacked mejai/sword of the occult + red buff to slow people who surive your burst down till you actualy kill them, she's not really that special 1 on 1 either, she's pretty good against normal solo queue teams though, hard to find anyone that uses wards, pink wards are even more rare, and I'm even going to go into oracles. Her passive is one of the most useless ones in the game aswell.

Also, apparently riot was  going to remake her, but failed and never really did it, and then nerfed her because people who wanted a remake got mad and started making smurfs and facerolling low level people, which in turn cried to riot and she got the nerfbat to the face, and now she is a mere nuisance against anyone willing to spend a few gold on oracles/pink wards.

Eve's success in a game depends more on how good the enemy team is then how good you are, even if you know how to use her in any given situation, there's very little you can do if the enemy team churns out some gold to take away the only reason they had to fear you.

Its still possible to win as her though, if you manage to faceroll people hard in the very first levels and get yourself some serious level and item advantage, and even then, if the game drags on for long enough, you'll can still be countered hard.

Anyway on other stuff:

Not a big fan of either xin or irelia, they're good and all but, its sort of aways the same thing. Now that xin is free everyone is spamming him on solo queue, and seeing a champion on everygame makes him uninteresting very fast, I tend to go for champions people don't play all too often but can still be viable, instead of cookie cutter xin doing the same DPS build everygame, dashing at people for crazy deeps the same way, etc etc. Irelia's a bit more fun though, she has more flexibility then xin does with a lot of burst to  back it up, and she's not as easymode as xin is.

Might take a look at Xin 2.0 Jarvan IV after people stop spamming him every game on solo queue. Anyway Olaf is probably the only Tanky deeps I'm not tired of seeing yet. Why does riot not make real tanks anymore? They made two supports, one of which is sub par, a xin + garen lovechild, a sub par ranged champ thats totally not based on ashe, etc. Its getting old already, I would go as far as to say that trundle and irelia were the last interesting champions they made. Altough I have to admit Jarvan looks ok, despite being another tanky deeps.

I need to get me a carry again and get really good at playing it, Nasus is a good champion but he's sort of team dependant for a looooong time untill he gets to farm all gold for his stuff and to charge his Q. He's really good if he gets to freefarm, otherwise he's just not that special, think eve without champion kills, only not as useless. I could do AP sion fine but he's sort of boring, Jax is fun as hell and really scary if properly built but I cant spare that much IP.

And yet again I suffer from playing a champ that needs teamates. Annie that somehow failed to last hit anything and ended the super long game with only 92 minion kills and refused to use her stun, EVER, and had only rod of ages and archangel's staff so she did zero damage endgame. This coupled with warmogs gunblade jax and an ashe that only hit her ultimate twice destroyed us in the late game. Even shen, who was playing really well, focused on the enemy teams first, for some reason. He chased a near full health malphite for half a map and came back when teamates saw him, several times.

I don't get what made that malphite so attractive to them, it was aways like "look people, xin and zilean are right there! just besides malphite!", then they all rush malphite while zilean bombs them and xin rapes everyone.