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These are old games so this is probably the only place (This forum) where I have any hope of just getting some tips, general feedback on either of the games mentioned in the subject, e.g p3 or PR2

I purchased both, now I want a game with good piracy and patrician 3 seems like better ship combat, tbh it reminds me of a taipan like game on the amstrad cpc 464 and well I have been looking for a game with ship combat like that for sooo long so it brings back good memmorys, that being said I have done the P3 tutorial and Im on the first campaign which is about advancement in lumeck, it just takes so long to notic progression, I have been trading and I never seem to complete the campaign , current stage Ive been given the tip to stock up on booze and some other luxurys in my warhouse for winter, its december now and I sold the stuff but still no completion, I want to play a full game of p3 but I dont see the point if I am not good enough for the campaigns, I just wish I could trade well as the game seems to promise alot from what Ive read.

I also got very far through the port royale 2 tutorial stuff but I got to a point where I had to setup a produiction chain but the scenario gives you not enough cash, next what happens is because you built the chain partuially without quite enough cash you lose money over time and if you arent doing your trading perfect each run yiou will be bankrupt within 20 mins if that <-----see in a real game I wouldnt setup a chain until I had 2 to 3 times more than the scenario

So with all that , which of the two would you say was best and are there any players of these games here who are good at them and are avid fans?

I have played pirates but it gets a bit boring and to much of the same.

Any tips are appreciated, I just cant interpret the whole supply demand stuff very well but I do want to get good enough at it wheree by its not a chore so to speak, I also have owned anno 1701 fo a long time, how do you rate that in comparison?

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Firstly hi again all,

I got introduced to DF thanks to captain ducks excellent tutorials , I got a decent fortress up but I never figured out how to use screwpumps and manipulate water properly, in fact some of the more esoteric stuff I never mastered and I have forgotten much since I last played therefore I will update this post when I rediscover the actual names of the mid-end game tools I couldnt master

Playing it again I have forgotten just how good DF is and I am trying out a second tutorial that is stickied this time around. (Not captain ducks ones) Does this new guide cover the use of screwpumps?

Another thing is that mid to end game last time I kept getting heaps and heaps of nobles so I guess I am wandering at which point and how can I stop them so that I can focus on my building.

I never ever saw a megabeast nor magma so I am hoping that the save I use from this new tutorial shows me how to set this up, I also am surprised to learn that actually rocks lying on the ground dont stop building unless they are marked for dumping? (If this is tru I have saved much time )

I have also been playing elona but I need to break it up a bit as well as I want to get in more fights in df this time around, is mike maydays tileset still the best one to use? Also I see opengl DF is available? Does that have good graphics tiles or something? Whats all that about?

Thanks again! Im going to be on DF a while now as want to take my game further

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Other Games / Elona - Where to get rations? + Any tips?
« on: June 04, 2009, 09:22:34 am »
1:   How do I equip my pet or tell it do drop things?
1A: You can press "i" then push direction of pet, next click inventory then use tab to cycle between the "give" or "take" windows

2:   Is there a bank?
2A: Kitty banks are quite rare but occasionally drop, when you get one you pick it up, press "t" which is use then select the kitty bank and each time enter is pressed the amount specified by the kitty bank gets deposited into the kitty bank. I believe you have to throw the kitty bank to get deposited money out but I have yet to do this

3:   When is the best level to grind in the puppy cave to?
3A: From my experiance thus far I would say good armour and weapons are the key to doing anything, higher levels are not necessarly advantageous

4:    What are mutations?
4A:  Mutations can happen via a dream or drinking from fountains, they can be positive or negative, to see current mutations press "SHIFT F" Bad mutations are in red, good ones on blue and a random mutation gets removed via a cure mutation potion

5: What are cargos of ragdoll, inner tube etc?
5A:   These are Elonas answer to trade goods and there is a wiki page with an excellent PDF file, it may look complicated but it is not if you have the time to stick with it - http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Cargo

6: Im sick of this I cant get into the lower dungeon levels because rations are hard to come by?
6A: Do the puppy cave 'quest', diving down to the level with the puppy on it and returning it to the little boy in the nearby town. (The quest is given in Vernis)

7:   I started out okay but now the game is way to difficult?
7A: Lower you fame by intentionally failing harvest,party type quests

8:   How do I get rid of ether disease?
8A: Its better to know when to avoid it however you must attain a cure corruption potion, these can be done if you win the vast majority of blackjaack games in a casino (Beyond that I am unsure but will update the post if I find more)

9:   How do I get cure corruption potions?
9A: Well you can use your chips you get at the start the game to get them, that being said you probably dont have a high enough luck stat at the start of the game and have lost them all, if this is the case then keep digging the resource icons on the map that give you materials and sooner or later you shall recieve chips

10:  I just looted a kitty bank but its cursed! Also remove curse scrolls wont uncurse it
10A: I verified this myself and the wiki at least the way I read it isnt clear with regards to the following fact: "Scrolls of Uncurse" only uncurse equipped items so you must get a vanish curse scroll. If you are new though it will be unlikely you have access to those so what you want to do is keep all the "Blessed" scrolls of uncurse, I just verified that this uncursed a 500k kitty bank, so something worth bearing in mind!

11:   What is the differance between mutations and etherwind?
11A: 
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Mutations and Ether wind disease mutations are similar things, with one fundamental difference.
Mutations tend to have a beneficial and a negative version of each other, that you cannot have both of at the same time. If you have a strength boosting mutation you can't have a weakness inducing one for example. Cure mutation potions cure these.
Ether wind disease ones on the other hand tend to have mostly negative effects with the occasional semi-positive effect also included, such as the wings mutation making you hover, but stopping you using a cloak. If you get 20 Etherwind disease mutations, you die, if i recall correctly. Cure corruption potions cure these.

12: Which starting pet should I get?
12A: The answer to this may change and this is just an opinion but I would say get the little girl, Another thing I have done is I accidently bought a horse with no riding skill, useless one may think? However it was level 10 and its actually a very powerful pet when you start out, in fact next game I start I shall get one straight away.

13:  What is the best in game assets to purchase in the initial instance?
13A: The general consesus seems to be getting a Museum, so dont sell those moster cards you loot!

14:   I am out of storage space and I am still very low level with little money! What should I do?
14A: Don't dump stuff in town but rather goto Vernis and clear out the rogues den near the graveyard there after you have recieved the quest and you can dump hordes of stuff there.

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15:  I am past level 10 but sometimes mages and other magic mobs damage tear through my armour what do I do?
15A: Watch this space :) This is where I am at, I am thinking get named gear by trading with other famed adventurer NPCs however ideally I think you want full fire, cold , darkness and mind armour sets , I need some more information on how to know what damage types various spells are causing.
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16:   What skills should I look to get?
16A: First choose a relevant couple of roles you want your character to play, I saw so many good skills that I have spread myself to thin and infact what skills to get is debatable however negotiation is vital, this should be one of the first skills you should get as it means you can buy things fo a much lower price and sell high. Weight lifting is another great skill worth getting early. Lockpicking is also recommended. If you plan on buying a ranch later gene engineering is worth getting; I did this however I believe you are better getting that skill free after doing a quest to capture X amount of monsters in a monster ball

17: How do I use a monster ball?
17A: You have to choose a mob that is the same or lower level of that specified on the monster ball, hit that mob until it has a tiny bit of health left, press "SHIFT & T" and select the monster ball, this will throw the ball and capture the monster inside.

18:   I have chosen a god, where can I worship him and what do I do?
18A: There is a place a bit north of the tax place in which all the gods altars are situated; go there and make sure to choose your gods altar, next click "SHIFT & O" after which the offer window shall appear showing any corpses you have which are not in your cooler box, however the following quote explains well how to use corpses:

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You can offer rotten corpses to your god but the wiki says that gives you 1 favor per corpse. If you offer non rotted corpse you get 1 favor per each stone the corpse weighs. So if you find a really heavy corpse put it in your cooler box from puppy quest, and let one of your pets carry it so you're not burdened.

19:   How do I use the teleport wand?
19A: Click "SHIFT & Z" to access the Zap menu, next select then hit enter on the wand of teleport, when it asks for a direction note this is not the direction to teleport but rather the person to teleport hence you must press numpad 5 on the keyboard to select yourself. (Note this will teleport you randomly)

20:   What in game usage does eggs and milk have?
20A: These are simply food and drink items respectively.

21:   Some mobs are very tough and certain magic damage rocks me! What can I do?
21A: I shall update this answer as I find this tricky also but currently I am looking to get specialised armour sets, my aim is to get say for example amour with all luck buffs for the casino as well as getting armour with all fire buffs for fire mobs. As for knowing where to find such armour? I am unsure and looking to find out, thus far I like the feeling of not knowing that X item will drop on the 5th attempt etc

22:  I keep getting killed when playing music! What can I do?
22A: You can look for items that improve your music and although I have only touched on this area I have found playing in front of my pets who are a significantly lower level than me to help alot. I was also lucky enough to find some strange artifact lute lying in Lumiest! It seems likesomething had killed an npc which dropped the lute.

23:   What! I am a male/female and I am pregnant??
23A: At a low level this could be bad! To get rid of the pregnancy dink poision, if you don't do this then in a short time an alien will burst from you stomach. When an alien is out if they arent killed fast theres a high chance them/their spores whatever they are called go into other npcs stomachs, most likely you will think everything is okay but when you come back the whole town will be swarming with them. Aliens give me the damn creeps but I was curious where it would all go and so palmia is now infested, watch this space! All said I think this is a very very cool and original feature so I hope the elona people keep working theirr magic on the English version of the game. (N.B think before creating an infestation because its damn near impossible to control and aliens appear at the most inconvenient momments!)

24: When I look at equipment I see numbers with certain bracket types amongst other information, what does all this mean?
24A:   As an example we have: [A,B] A = DV & B = PV yeah. (X,Y) X = hit bonus & Y = damage bonus. Square brackets pertain to defense, normal "()" brackets pertain to damage related information. In the above example [A,B] = defense value, protection value respectively whilst (X,Y) = hit bonus and damage bonus, also respectively. Further more you may see the following on armour, weapons: "It maintains Strength" , this means that you strength does not get affected by various sickness and/or debuffs

25:  How do I marry someone? What does the menu item "Incarnate an Adventurer do?
25A:   To marry someone you need to get your reputation with them high enough so it reads as "soulmate" after which you can talk to them and select the "Ask for hand" option. Reputation can get higher by making sure your pet does not die and letting them get the killing blows when fighting mobs, this can take a long time and the preferred way is to give them lots of engagement rings or engagement amulets. Don't make the mistake I did, for example make sure you identify all your engagement attire since without identification the items won't stack and considering the amount of rings etc needed you will need all the inventory space available since taking an engagement item from a pet results in a significant reputation drop as well as them eating the ring/amulet in question!

Another way to do the above is to use a love potion, what you do is <SHIFT & B> to get to the "Mix" menu, next select the love potion then a destination food , this mixes the potion in the food creating an aphrodisiac which you then give to the person you want to marry, my own observations which I need to verify were that it boosts reputation and that the target pet may lay an egg

Assuming you are now married, what you can do now is wait until you see on the UI that you are sleepy then talk to your ingame wife/husband and select "Do you want to make a gene" (<--may not be exact term) This creates a gene and then if you save your game, restart elona and at the main menu select "Incarnate" related option you should see a new adventurer which I believe gets some bonuses as well as being able to use some items from you main character if they get a deed of heirship




N.B Just working on this all very slowly as I enjoy the game but thanks to everyone who has given feedback, since without that I would have managed to write the above as it has been and still is a learning process for me and since I had so many questions I thought, why not write it down? (That way when come back to foum after say a few week break I haven't fogotten it all :D )

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Other Games / Need some advice on Elona from some Elona players
« on: January 06, 2009, 11:41:35 am »
Hi,

I started playing Elona and actually I am enjoying it but at the same time its very hard, what I ended up doing was copying my save folder when I wasn't sure if I would manage a mission.

My pet is a little girl and my character is a lich mage.

I checked the wiki for Elona but I am not to impressed with it. I love the game though but really need more tips/input. I am currently level 4, I did as suggested in the wiki and am running delivery missions from vernis to palmia and also run from the rogue town to port kapul. The problem now though is there seems to be less delivery missions and more hunting missions, now these are kinda hit and miss, a big part of that is that I never have the amount of spells I would like and sometimes you could be battling with somethimng, taking no damage then "wham" one hit kill and if I dont back up my saves I would be a criminal which is game over since letting the guards kill you over and over does not increase karma again, contrary to what is written.

I really want to continue futher with this game but I need to know how I can get spellbooks more regulary , also many times reading them I dont get any spells from them so I increase literacy. I would like to be able to do the harvest missions as well but I know I will fail them, I mean what is it you do to harvest exactly? Go over a fruit and click enter? Its just every time I do that I get interrupted by some mob, rinse repeat, time up and yes its that fast! I would like to get good at harvesting so I assume I need gardening? Also the party ones, the way I read the wiki anyone can just go and play the paino or cook but at least in my game it doesnt work like that, you need to learn to cook and play an instrument but I am unsure of how to get this realistically done bearing in mind I am not getting near enough easy delivary missions to make the kind of platinum and money I need to get any skills so with all this in mind what would people suggest? (Kinda stuck at the momment)

Heres my gear (btw I have started getting regular item identification and all my stuff is identified, its also at the point where I cant drop any more items in my house) :

A Scale Leather Hat [5,1] <----is this 5 protection value or something?
A Howling silk decorative amulet (It maintains speed, grants resistance to mind)
A cloth light cloak [1,0]
A cloth robe+1 [4,0] <-------once again still not 100% on these modifiers which probably means I am getting crap gear
A silver Wakizashi (4d3+1) (4)  <-------4 dice, 3 sides? + 1 to final value on any role? Also whats (4)
2 * Bronze engagement ring, grants resistance to lightning
A cloth girdle [1,0]
A pair of silk shoes [2,0]
A blessed magical  bronze shortbow (3d5)(1) Uses differant brackets  I guess these indicate dice roles?
^^^maintains speed, maintains perception,improves shield skill, resistance to lightning

A glass arrow (1d7) (4)

Heres my current stats:
str 1    (1)  Not sure what these values in brackets mean
con 9   (9)
dex 7   (7)
per 13 (13)
ler 13 (13)
wil 21 (21)
mag 28 (28)
char 2 (2)

Combat rolls:

melee1   4d3+1 x 0.8  <----need deciphered   hit 88%
dist       3d5+4 x 0.8                           hit 61%
prot       9% + 1d4      evade 46%

misc:

Life 80
mana 145 (140)   <---curious what the differance means
sanity 0
speed 74
fame 354
karma -4

There is also a funny icon/image/small pic to the lower left of my character portrait on this screen, what does that mean?

Extra Info:

Cargo wt: 96s
Cargo Lmt: 80s
Equip wt: 7.0s (light)
Deepest Lvl: 3

Hint: This character has no bless or hex

I just really need advice that will help me play this game better also is it possible to learn cooking, playing the paino , harvesting without spending 15plat on the skill?

Thanks :)

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DF Community Games & Stories / Very newbie friendly succession game?
« on: January 03, 2009, 12:14:16 pm »
Hiya as said many times, Im loving this game. It is also great when I found out that people have made these succession games, unfortunately I am quite clueless about how they work.

I noticed in certain ones, the way they worked was that players were joining the game when a dwarf was born, I'm just wandering do they usually have it so that if that dwarf dies you are out of the game?

Also the aspect of turns, I think some played a turn as 1 year game time, I am not to familiar with how DF handles dates so would appreciate if someone could point me in the direction of a page which will explain how the DF date system works.

Another thing, are there any other general rules I should be aware of for these games? I am considering participating in one if it was newbie friendly but with going back to uni very soon it would be handy to be able to hand over my turns to someone else, I would hope that I could safely find the time to play a year as and when required though.

Once a turn is completed, e.g my turn, do I just rar the region folder and send it to the next person who is due their turn?

Just curious as to what I must know before considering these games

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Hi I recently got a hammerer, tax collector, baron and baroness.......throughout when I had time I named my dwarfs and apart from peasants I would give them all there own room, shortly after the baron moved into my room area, which had loads of residents housed, I went back today and tried to assign my new immagrants to a room but only a fraction of the list showed, their names were all brown coloured, not sure if that has any relevance, but the ones that showed already had rooms assigned

I also have a tax collector and noticed rooms were taxed so I figured that would be whats causing the problem, I then proceeded and made the room rent free but still I cannot assign my empty rooms to much of my new immagrants? Any idea why this is? I do know about + and minus to scroll up and down however theres maybe 20 people come up for room assigned yet there are easily over 52 immagrants that should be in the list

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Hi,

I am a newbie, I am looking for a game, just to view that has stuff like irragation built and makes use of waterwheels and axes so I can see how they work. It is preferable if they work with mike maydays version of DF but if not I will try and find the exact working version for the saves.

I was actually advised to look in these forums, which I am in the process of doing and I notice you are having community games or something? Is that where people take a turn of a save then mail it on or something? Just reading and it sounds interesting.

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Hi,

I have made a fort on say level 1, everythings mined out, now on part of a hallway floor directly above it is a black area, unmined but I can see it has some coal, anyway I want to from level 1 in my fort get to level 2 , so I do b C then choose stairs, it builds the stairs but I still cant get UP one level .

I will attempt to draw.......
  *****
*         *
*   BU   *
  **** *
Lvl2 ^

    ####
   # SS#
  #     #

Lvl1^

BU = Black unimined
* = rock edges which I dont want to mine into but want to dig UP and go up via a stair from my fort main level
# = Fort walls created when initially mined out
S = 1 tile wide stairway

Thanks again
 


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Can someone upload me a save which shows a working screwpump in action for irrigation? The save needs to be compatible with mike maydays pack.

I am looking for uploads of quite far on fortresses so as to learn from them, specifically organisation , late game and get some ideas about pits and other contraptions

Thanks :)

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Hiya,

Loving this game thanks to its quality, the sound advice given on the forums and captain ducks tutorials. Anyway I am starting to have quite a thriving fortress in fortress mode but I am curious, is adventure mode as deep and unique as fortress mode? and whats it all about? How does it work? What kind of game is it?

Know it sounds stupid but fortress mode far exceeded any expectations so I am just curious what adventure modes like? How does it tie in with fortress mode if at all?

Finally is there anyone here who likes adventure mode better than fortress mode?

Cheers!

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DF Gameplay Questions / need help to make an outside pressure plate?
« on: December 30, 2008, 08:01:46 pm »
Hi I have a sqaure of wall, I put 2 vertical bars for an entry into this defense structure. I goto create a pressure plate but when I go outside, it says no access to mechanisms and im certain i doesnt do this inside? Im just new to setting up traps & levers so any help would be appreciated, I basically want a pressure plate or lever inside the defense structure to open the gate

Thanks :)

BTW my fortress holds a baron now with all needs met and I have a glass chain , forging(non magma) and alot of other stuff done :)

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 I am about to start playing again but one of my dwarfs is in a possed mood, he took the clothiers shop and is muttering , rock......cloth.....thread,tree,life
 I am making cloth and thread at the loom , I think there is gems about and rock(not in stockpile) but he isnt doing anything so what am I missing?

I checked the wiki and know how to handle fey moods but I am unsure of what I need to do here

This is by far the best I have done in any fortress so I am not wanting to start a chain reaction of unhappy dwarfs , This is the first time I have had to set up a cloth chain, I have the farmers workshop, a loom, a clothiers

Btw I have plant thread, also cloth, I think I need silk, but when I try at the loom it says needs to collect silk or something, how do I do that?

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DF Gameplay Questions / A bit stuck with one aspect of smelting
« on: December 26, 2008, 05:50:50 pm »
Hi was going through the wiki written tutorial, I build 1 smelter and one forge , I think I make Coke from bitmus coal or something like that :)

I have been reading the wiki for ages on smelting and forging, I think I followed the instructions correctly, also in my smelter is 3 bronze bars, I think I must have made those but it used up the fuel because now it says needs fuel? I guess I need to find coal or something ? (Im not fussed about being magma safe just want basic smelting and forging working)

I think I smelted nuggets to get bronze bars, so now I have the bronze bars in the smelter, I can see by doing view item in building but I need the broze bars into the forge to make a pick axe and battle axe (I know I dont need to but I want to do it to learn)

Im kinda confused at this point what I need to do so have

Bronze bars in smelter
forge built

Cant create bronze picks

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Hi,

I have been doing a fair bit of wiki reading and have loads of ideas , Im thinking of getting an automated supply chain on the go , I have read about the take from restrictions and think I undestand.

Anyway I was wandering lets say I make a 6 by 6 gems stockpile , I then make 6 bins
Also assume there is a furiniture stockpile full of stuff
Assume I have 6 bins

I decide I want all my bins to be used on the gems stockpile and fill them just with gems, then later I may want to fill other bins with only a certain brand of stock , how would I go about doing that its just I read bins were mixed, is it even possible.

My final question , I will do a diagram for
Code: [Select]
# = Walls
R = Rocks
S = Some stockpile
D = door

#########
#RRRRRRRR #
#RRRRRRRR D
#RRRRRRRR #
#RRRRRRRR #
#RRRRRRRR #
###D#####


As we can see the room is full of rocks say I designated a ammo or gems stockpile there would the rocks take up the space and have to be moved?

Thanks again

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Getting to the point where Im building defenses now however I messed up part of the wall, I know how to remove it when its constructed but how do I remove it when its just set to be constructed?

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