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So thee people have stood out to me, one of them very understandable, two of them not so much, but I think I should still bring them up. Vector and Jim have both seemed to advise that massive walls of text analysing every post arn't productive, and tend to get over looked, so I shall bring forward anything I think is realy significant that is new...

Meanmelter
Wow, this guy has sort of stepped into hot water. Normally I would look at he's case as being newbie mistakes, but there is something scummy about him that I haven't seen in anybody else here.

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 05:24:11 pm

I was going to see if he was going to state that he was not a scum or say something relevant to that. Perhaps even vote against someone else and accuse them of being scum. IT is RVS. I can change as I please. I believe.

This is a rather angsty reply to an IC.
Now normally a new player is faced with the task of finding scum, through means not understood to them, and they have to do it well or get voted out. A daunting task, and to make it worse they don't have a friend in the world, except the IC's... As such the normal response is to either be very willing to listen to the IC's, as they offer the only source of security, or be super paranoid and suspect the IC's more than anybody, as they are the biggest threat.
The fact that Meanmelter is giving a similar reply that a rebellious teenager would give their parent when asked to clean their room indicates he has another IC to listen to for advice, he doesn't feel compelled to hug up to the IC's, or destroy them, he feels he has the support to do what ever the hell he wants.
There has been other points against him, but they have been made.

So your basing my whole scummyness because I gave a temper tantrum to the IC and that your punishing me by voting me in hopes I will get timeout and have to sit in a corner until I learned my mistake? No. I do understand the IC's are here as our guide into helping us find the scum on this planet, but that doesn't mean all of us enjoy them telling us what we should and shouldn't do.
Now the whole part about a rebellious teenager totally confused me.
But I'm still reassuring your scum. I mean, after I voted at you from something you said earlier that I just didn't like. You decide to vote back against me and make a horrible excuse that I am scum because I didn't comply with the IC? That is totally a scum move. You've also posted more than the least of us. Both you and Anzki4 and your both totally appear quite scummy. You've also haven't mentioned anything towards Anzki4 directly about his latest actions. I'm not implying that he's your scum-buddy or anything, but why not? I mean, you had barely anything to accuse me of being scum, but you have nothing on Anzki4?

Quote from: kilakan on July 14, 2011, 05:08:02 pm

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 05:06:45 pm

Freeformschooler Why should I change this vote?

Not to answer for him but I can't resist.  Why don't you tell me?

This looks like scum trying to protect he's newbie buddy from a tricky question.
Also, scum tend to vote together d1

I do have to admit, it does look like Kilakan is trying to change the subject.
But at the same time, that is a horrible question, and I didn't have much to back it up with.
I also disagree with your last statement. If anything, a scum would vote against a scum to make himself look less suspicious.

2 ninja's

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 10:54:49 pm

Well jeez, not like there is much I can ask without someone clearly finding a way around it.
But if you really insist on me asking others stuff that aren't going to tell me anything anyway. But hey, why not? Right? Right...

Doesn't matter. You want scum, you go catch them yourself. How did you think you were going to play if your questions are worthless no matter what? How can you say you've found scum with an assertion like that?

I'm sure they will trip over their own shoe-laces eventually? Besides, they can easily act way to townie which is a huge open sign to me that they are scum. Your just totally implying I should ask questions all day. Which, isn't going to help me scumhunt if I can't even make up a good one. I'm no interrogator.

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 10:54:49 pm

Max White I dunno why, but everytime I see this it just screams your I.D. says Mr.Scum on it.
Also, anzki4 how do you feel I found your partner in crime here?

No, bad, wrong. What's Max going to say? That's not even a question. Ask him something about it, don't just call him scum and sit there.
Also no bad wrong, FoSing anzki with a probably worthless question. In a beginner's game, maybe- maybe he'll screw up. But it's a beginner's game, so even if he does screw up badly, he might be noobtown instead of noobscum. Don't you have anything you actually want to ask him? What he thinks of X, what he'd do in Y, something that lets you know whether he's scum or town?

Let me lead by example:

Meanmelter, please restate your case on anzki. It sounds like you're just parroting my mention of him.

There is plenty he could say. He could just simply say he isn't scum and come back with an argument saying I am scum, though that would be scum to vote back now wouldn't it.  And No it's not a question, but it surely is pressuring isn't it. Or is Vote Pressuring now not allowed?
Also, that example isn't a question, it's a statement. Perhaps if you made it more questioning.

Found my new sig.

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 09:01:31 pm

I can barely get past one day. What am I doing wrong D: Did someone post some kind of gigantic guide somewhere?

Just find a build that you like and avoid combat when you can.

That's hard to do when I'll just be randomly walking and four zombies litterly spawn in front of me all the time.

I really wish I'd realized you couldn't build barricades with a hatchet like you do with a hammer.

Also the game is telling me to quit immediately, in all caps.  Oh God what does that mean.

Congrats, you have schizophrenia. You also end up killing your mom at some point.

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 07:40:47 pm

Deadmeat1471 Considering your situation of looking totally scummy, and even more saying Kilakan is scum in your last post, explain why you accuse Kilakan of being scum?

I didn't. In fact I have stated I don't think he is scum. Which is why I am confused about his continuing accusation I am scum for deciding I don't suspect him, for now.

Oh really?If you want to die, just say "I am a Scumbag", and get it over with.
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That is totally accusing someone of being scum.

Quote from: Meanmelter on July 14, 2011, 07:19:10 pm

Unvote.

Holy hell of  a fucking easy fold.  No one told you to remove it without any points otherwise.  In a case like this it would be only normal if you unvoted with a god damn reason or do you need to ask me what I think are your reasons for the unvote?

Because I think you just fucking folded like wet origami, you scum.

The hell is a fold? And since when do I need 'points' to unvote for something? I already said I voted at him to see if he would crack up but he didn't.

Meanmelter-Try to prove to me you are not scum and that you didn't just fold to please and attempt to get everyone off of you.

I also need to start thinking for a minute before posting but the amount of ninjas lately kinda threw me into turbo mode.

Again, what is folding?

Sure you're not just trying to bump your postcount?

Haha, no.

Quote from: Deadmeat1471 on July 14, 2011, 06:35:29 pm

He will give an answer when he returns.

I'm not discounting the guy whos currently lurking as an innocent, I will wait and see his response first.

Not being available =/= Lurking.

The game started today. It's still a little early to be calling people lurkers. Consider also that people have lives that do not revolve around arguing with a bunch of assholes on the Internet.

Wait what? A Person playing Mafia on the Bay12 forums with a life? It's like a dream come true.