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Meh, you can stuff about ∞ wagons into a 9x9 square in one z-level

Yes, but only if we assume a high entropy past and a high entropy future, rather than a low entropy past and a high entropy future. But I won't get into the details or your heads and mine will melt.

What is the probability of the universe turning out the way it is now from the beginning of the universe to now, roughly 13 billion years?

The probability is 1:1, because it DID turn out this way. Retrospective probability is meaningless.

Buddhism does have Gods as mystical beings, but not as objects of worship.

And as for what part of the Bible can be compared to a textbook?

Genesis.

I'm not trying to disprove anything. I'm trying to demonstrate that one cannot just throw about theories like this without any backing behind them in an attempt to will something into existence. I explicitly stated that nothing I said Disproves anything, it only demonstrates that a conclusion cannot be reached, yet.

Not being 1-dimensional creatures...

Exactly.

Wait, what?  When did I say it didn't exist in the other four?  If it didn't, then any suggestion of omnipotence would be impossible, as it would not be able to interact with that in the other four planes (regardless of existing in a single one of the latter planes being impossible).  Just that being in one of those other planes possibly allows it to do things we cannot; chief among them being the ability to avoid detection by 3-dimensional creatures unless it so chooses.  If there were a single dimensional creature, would it be able to observe us at it's own will, or solely at our will?

You're saying that it doesn't exist on the other four implicitly, by stating that it has no tangible form on them.  Unless it wants to is a cop out. Suppose there existed a two dimensional universe that intersects with our three dimensional one. What would they see? They'd see shapes popping into existence and vanishing, changing in size and geometry at will. But most importantly, they'd see -something-, though they'd have no way of describing it other than the particular form the 3 dimensional object projects into 2 dimensional space.

In fact, if current theory holds, then you and I DO exist on multi-dimensional space. All of ARE projections of objects in 10 or 11 dimensions projected upon 3D space. And are we hyperintelligent super beings just because our constituent parts are beyond our safe and comfortable 4D space?

So basically you're just talking about a somewhat cylindrical wood tower?

You're not getting it. Something cannot exist on five dimensions of movement without also existing in four, and three, and two, and one. If an object exists in the universe, it must exist in all dimensions that the universe contains. We have yet to see an objects that does not obey this rule, and therefore postulating one into existence does not make sense.

You're making sweeping statements with absolutely no reasoning behind them other than maybes and ifs.

Certainly, the lack of evidence of these things does not rule them out as a possibility, but be rational. If you want something to exist, you don't postulate it into existence and have it magically appear. You must have some real, rational reason to believe it. Show me the math. Show me the theory that demonstrates the possibility of what you're saying. If you can't do that, then don't make the sweeping statements.