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What if...

...instead of floor grates, carve down stairs in the entire three tile path.  Enemies can move forward over stairs, lava flows down stairs, and they're constructions, so building destroyers cant break them.

I'm not sure if you can build a drawbridge over stairs, but if you can wagons would still be able to come in.  Also, I have no idea how collecting goblinite would work on stairs.

Anyone know if you can build a drawbridge over the top of downward stairs, and if you can collect goblinite off of stairs?

I was actually thinking about using ramps.  I know you can have a bridge over ramps - not that you need it, since you could just have the depot at the end of the trap. If you had a few ramps followed by a line of grates you should be able to drain quickly with no left over lava... I am assuming that lava falling down from above onto a ramp will stay long enough to kill and burn - I assume so, because of the cool laval mysters.


Bascially, something like:

(side view)
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(Top View)

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Which you could repeat

So I have one of these fun volcano sites which has the magma pillar sticking out almost on its own for a numer of levels.  I am thinking it would make a great magma trap front door. The question: If I pump a bunch of magma up to a container, and the volcano refills itself, if I dump the magma back into the volcano, will it overflow?

Uh, and her name was Frosty???

Frosty the Snow Clown,
Was a huge, emaciated snail
She was made of snow
And no dwarfs know
how she left from life one day.

HHmmm... Can you make a wooden pick?  I know wooden axes can chop. 
I would lean toward a very simple implementation, in the castle vs outside the castle.  IE the scum live outside the walls and do the manual labor.  They mine (poorly, but they is an accurate reflection) and chop down trees.  They carry these resources to a dump place hole which gets it to the citizens.  Note, having the farms with the scums would reflect real life better, but would cancel much of the scum starvation, and allow for a spiral to starve the noble, so farming and butchering become noble professions, and you can dump the scraps to the masses (change bisquit to cake and drop 1 per year or something ;^).
I think you need to not have a moat, so there is a chance that the scum could have an uprising, destroy the bridge, get in and have a bit of a revolution attempt (assuming tantrumming dwarves will leave their burrow).

So, with the "stay inside" approach, does that mean you create the burrow when the enemy shows up?  If not, how do you get woodcutters to cut outside, but still run back to the burrow when danger shows up?

Also, can you have a single dwarf in multiple burrows?  I didn't think you could...

Quote from: Qwernt on April 29, 2010, 01:00:35 pm

Quote from: Proteus on April 28, 2010, 05:23:24 pm

Jep, while Silk might not be able to be cut by an axe/sword/dagger ,
it probably still (RL) wouldn´t offer any protection to it...
the silk of the clothes would just wrap around the blade,
with silk+blade still being thin enoughto cut through the underlying flesh.

Not to mention piercing weapons (like arrows), which just might pass through the silk fabric by pushing the silk strands aside

Quote from: Proteus on April 28, 2010, 05:23:24 pm

Jep, while Silk might not be able to be cut by an axe/sword/dagger ,
it probably still (RL) wouldn´t offer any protection to it...
the silk of the clothes would just wrap around the blade,
with silk+blade still being thin enoughto cut through the underlying flesh.

Not to mention piercing weapons (like arrows), which just might pass through the silk fabric by pushing the silk strands aside 

Actually, if you study Mongollian warfare, you find that they relied on loose heavy silk as a major part of their armor.  Reportedly, arrows would not cut the silk (too loose), but actually push it into the wound.  This slowed the progress of the arrowhead meaning mere flesh wounds instead of piecing through the body part and also allowed for quick recover as there was no tearing when the arrow was removed - meaning more men could stay on campaign longer - a good thing in that time period.

Silk in ARMOR should provide some decent protection, but Olin in his silk pajamas with pictures of elves falling to their deaths shouldn't be as well protected, since it's not designed for use in fighting like those Mongolian armors were.

I disrespectfully disagree that Mongolian Armor would be better suited for combat than Dwarf Pajamas. 

I wonder, has anyone done similar research using the trap weapons?  IE, best metal for a spiked ball?