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If you don't mind learning russian, TimeZero is a decent permanent-world browser game. Not everything happens in-game, as in you can't just go out and start a city (or at least it was that way last I remember), but if you amass enough wealth you can start building things inside existing cities, like factories and stuff. The game mostly revolves around battling monsters though, and isn't as continuous as I'd like. Plus it's damn hard, and new players are sometimes very vulnerable to "old" players that like to monitor new people engaging monsters. On the flip side, some old players like to help new players that wind up against hard enemies. All in all, that game as I remember it wasn't as good as I'd like it. I don't know what it's turned into now, I haven't looked at it in several years.

Wouldn't happen to be Space Rangers, no?

Also, Flatspace.

Some of the game at least, was purposed to support hotseat, or splitscreen, or whatchamacallit play. At least I remember seeing a mention of "plugging two mice in" somewhere in the game's files. Somebody try that...

I meant to get a gem-free version of a weapon you already have. If you finish a level with it and go to the hall, it will save with no gems.

Kagus, if you ever feel like it, swing the machine flail as hard as you can, horizontally, and let it go flying along the training hall. Then fly the other way. I once broke the world like that.

The buzzsaw doesn't save to the hall in 0.21. Known bug. Even the "all weapons in the hall" cheat doesn't let you have it there.

By the way, the lack of updates, according to rumors, is because the game is now "full swing" into the shareware sector.

[ June 06, 2008: Message edited by: Sean Mirrsen ]

Which pinball minigame? The Hammerball one? It's not nearly as difficult as the basket-slicing challenge before it, just time a hit right a few times, you need just three decent hits out of 9.

You can get a gem out of a weapon by shattering it.

To shatter a weapon, you, in turn, need the ice sword. If you haven't encountered it yet, be prepared to. Some guy will wield it sometime before you challenge the emperor.

Basically, you need a lot of luck on that one. Luck, plus some serious flailing skill. Get a flail (the spiky one you get after the flail-throwing will do), insert a gem of fire into it so that you can negate the ice gems, and concentrate on knocking the wielder out of the air, then pummeling his sword in full swing.

After you get the ice sword, you can extract gems out of weapons. First, charge the sword by dealing damage to the wooden block in the Hall, then get a second weapon (the shotgun will do), and approach the target gemmed weapon. Touch it with the machine's body - the weapon should become encased in ice. Use the opportunity and smash it to bits. The gem will fly out, but it will be difficult to catch in most cases. Don't worry - you don't lose weapons in the Hall, or gems from those weapons. It's an exploit actually - you can get as many gems as you like.