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I have a vague suspicion that the amount of adamantine mined determines how fast the demons spawn after breaking open the chamber.  I haven't had many opportunities to test this, however.  But I normally end up digging up a lot of ady before opening the pits and I never have enough time to wall them up again.

I've only encountered the pits twice, but the first time i mined straight down through several layers of adamantine before i got to them andt he demons took their sweet time to show up. the other time i hit the pits from the bottom of the map without even touching the adamantine, and a demon spawned almost instantly. then my legendary miner stabbed it through the heart and lungs with a pickaxe

so this may not be the case

1. find a place where the magma pipe/pool sticks out further on one z level than it does on the one above it (or use the top level of the magma)

2. dig a 1-wide tunnel until it almost connects to magma, with 1 tile leaving it separated (and doesn't connect to your fort)

3. build a fortification at the magma end of the tunnel

4. go to the z level above the tunnel, and channel out the tile that seperates the magma from the tunnel

5. build a wall or floor to seal off the tile you just channeled

6. you now have a source of magma that's sealed off from the main magma pipe. magma can get past the fortification but creatures cannot (except minor vermin like fire snakes will occasionally spawn inside the tunnel, but they won't venture far so as long as it's not near any important stockpiles it shouldn't be a problem). dig another channel into the tunnel (on the safe side of the fortification) and designate a garbage dump on the floor around it.

a garbage dump zone needs to be designated on the tiles -adjacent- to a channel/pit, and dwarves will throw garbage into the open space. you can go into the global orders for refuse (o->r) and set which kinds of refuse (if any) you want your dwarves to keep in refuse stockpiles, and which will get automatically marked for dumping.

it's traditional to put a spoiler warning in your title, i guess some people want to be suprised by the HFS (hidden fun stuff)

I just struck adamantine, no signs of HFS yet or demons. I'm with my 7 founding setllers and its my first year... I don't have any weapons but a steel battle axe. I know enough about the demons and so I guess I'm pretty doomned if they show up. What to do? And what if they don't show.. How can I process adamantine

http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Adamantite#Processing

the demons are in a pit under all the adamantine (adamantine veins span multiple z levels), if you don't break into it, they won't get out (and if you do accidentally you might be okay if you re-wall it immediately)

i'm so copying this idea. my GF isn't really into DF but this'd make her laugh.

But she's the mother of my fort's only baby 

death.

I suppose my next question would be... how serious is the framerate problem gonna get? So far I have no problems at all, and run a fairly recently made gaming rig (about a year old now, was high grade when it was built) but I've been seeing a LOT of talk about framerate hits, etc... doesn't seem like a particularly graphically intensive game, so I'm wondering if the framerate is only a problem on older machines or if even the most modern of gaming rigs is gonna be brought to its knees by the insistent labors of the dwarves?

graphics are not the issue with framerate, in fact 'framerate' in DF isn't referring to FPS as with most other games. framerate in DF is the speed at which the game plays (As in how fast time passes/dwarves do stuff). lower framerate = dwarves slow down. the major limiting factor in this is processor speed and has little to do with the graphical capabilities of your machine. The major thing that makes DF a resource hog is dwarven pathfinding, as in them figuring out how they're going to move from where they are to their next destination. many dwarves doing this at once gobbles up CPU like nobody's business. that being said, a newer system like yours will probably not have signifigant issues with slowdowns until you get well over 100 dwarves (or dwarves + lots of animals), and even then there are ways to speed things up

Oh, it's not the heat? Huh.

Well, regardless, you need coal with or without having magma.

yeah, the oddity is that regular forges don't need a second piece of coke to use as fuel (somehow the 1 does double duty)

yeah, they'll only start growing once you officially discover the underground river. a surface river that happens to go through a hillside or anything like that doesn't count. underground rivers can also be very hard to find