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I think that part of the problem is that we go right from a chunk of rock the size of a dwarf, or a felled tree, to the finished product. 

Absolutely agree, although in one of the DF talks (early on since I could listen through the whole thing) Tarn Adam's stated something along the lines of "I am hesitant about tying the tiles in DF to a real world number because then everything will have to make sense"  When asked why a tile can fit 1,000 dragons "as long as 999  of them are lying down".

Regardless, we will eventually need some point of reference so that the workshop operations start to make sense.

I don't mean to keep harping on this, but the 2D version's linear progression of materials was better in this respect. You actually had to progress through the game to get access to iron and coal, for example. However, this isn't geologically realistic. A better place to limit it would be manufacturing capability: You can't make anything out of iron until you have, not just a forge, but at least a +Forge+, which means using at least +blocks+ and an +iron anvil+.[1] To work steel or platinum you need a *Forge*.

This is basically what I meant, except it should be just as reliant on the material used as the quality (value-decorations?).

The thread is supposed to be a question

"Is Route Caching going to be in the next version, any news when its comming?"

The definition was simply so that people who can't figure out "Route Caching" from its title can understand.

Nevertheless, your the boss, I will move it regardless.

EDIT:  Ummmmmm, how do I move the thread?

I came up with an original idea for solving DF pathing problems....found out it isn't even close to original....and now I am asking if it will be implemented by Toady.

Route Caching:  Saving pre-calculated routes in the memory so that the dwarves do not have to make up their own route, tile by tile, every single time.  In order to keep the dwarves semi-intellegent, they will use the cached routes only for popular destinations (bed<->workshop; bed<->food; workshop<->food ect.) and will delete the old route when it becomes outdated due to DF's dynamic enviroment and create new ones.

Nah don't worry Dvergar I didn't take it personally it was just a little pay back for having ago at my spelling .

I was talking about the others, they honnestly didn't believe you, and dragged it on several posts....which I am now perpetuating 

Anyways...

If the elves discover your fort is non-kosher they will establish an embassy, complete with gawking nobles that sit around draining your food (but not booze) and making demands.  If the nobles become unhappy or are killed, or you simply refuse their demands (demand #1= build embassy) then war is declared, whadyathink.

Nethack isn't entirely based on a strict classification system is it?

Anyways, i like several of the choices Tarn Adams made, some of them produce some pretty endearing mental images; the rhesus masque is the one off the top of my head.

Were the unaware defender to be given realistic penalties such as 0% defend bonus and 0% dodge/parry chance, and the attacker able increase his base damage the detection better be realistic as well.  It won't be realistic enough for me until only sneak attacks on unconsious or semi-consious foes are successful 

P.S.  This would be rolled for every attack and therefore once the foe goes unconsious the attacker will likely end the battle with a single, targeted blow

Thank you all very much, for your infomation I happen do has a mild form of Dyslexia which effects my spelling ability, its something to do with word pattern recognition, so I'm sorry if my spelling isn't always perfect, also it didn't prevent me from gaining the masters as I got extra time in the exams as I'm a properly certificated dyslexic.

My god...i was just poking a little fun, did this have to go on and on as much as it did?  I was making a joke but I still believed him, does anybody trust anybody anymore?