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Just joined up, named after myself.

Needs more monacle.

*cuts down a tree*

ROIGHT! WOT'S GOIN ON, 'ERE?

Unlike floodgates, you can never have too much booze. They'll drink it eventually, and if you run out of food or need barrels for something, you can just cook it off. If your concern is brewing your cloth supply, then mark pig tails as unbrewable in the (Z)Stocks/Kitchen screen.

The main reason I watch LPs is to enjoy games that I'll never play. My entertainment budget is tiny, barely covering a glass of wine when I get home from work and the occasional movie rental. While I get plenty of mileage out of $20 PC games, I will never own a gaming console, nor ever be able to afford to buy new games for it. Thus, watching an LP is the only way I'm ever going to see console-exclusives like Devil May Cry and God of War.

Then, there's games where SA's LP motto hits full force: "We play games so you don't have to." I don't have to suffer through steaming piles of dog crap like DMC2, Daikatana, or Sonic 2006 just to watch the storyline unfold. As an added bonus, the vast majority of LPs of horrid games like these are entertainment in and of themselves.

Ok, I moved it.  You're right, it should have been here all along, I just wasn't thinking where I was putting it...

Still, I think that if the fish problem's been removed, it should be put back in; just for Fun!

P.S. I do however agree that all this shouldn't be in vanilla DF (but it should be paid homage to, like in engravings and stuff)

Make your mod, then. It wouldn't be difficult to rig up your ubermench carp, but it's gotta be done, and that takes longer than a forum post.

I'm concerned about a thing or two though, isn't the stock data generated on-demand? Why else does the game pause when you scroll past stone if you have too much?

The stocks screen is, indeed, generated on demand. The reason it takes so long is because (wild mass guessing based upon my own programming experience) the game stores a list of each individual item, and when you highlight that item's heading in the stock screen, the game scans through that list for the details. Reading the count takes but a moment (thus why loading the Z screen in the first place doesn't take ten minutes), but polling each item to determine what it is (gneiss, gabbro, plump helmet spawn, sweet pod seed, etc.), if it's part of a building, forbidden, marked for dumping, or simply lying about takes a similar moment PER STONE. It's easy to accumulate thousands, even millions of stones (even a 2x2 site contains OVER NINE THOUSAAAND stones per Z-level) over the course of your fortress's life.

The pro trick for avoiding that lag if you want to look at other items on the third page is to move the cursor down to at least the fifth item before hitting Page Down. You can also Page Down to the fourth page and move up one item at a time.

... and seeds.  For some odd reason, seeds are much worse.

Seeds can get really bad if you grow many different crops. Your typical seed will be inside a bag, inside a barrel, placed in a stockpile. That's three of those "moments" to find each seed and figure out if it's being eaten by vermin.

In fact, I'm thinking on just cutting my max population down because it's annoying to deal with new immigrants. Not because of FPS issues, but because it's such a brain freeze to think of jobs for them all.

If you run out of jobs before you run out of fish dissectors, your military is too small. There is no fortress that would not benefit from a few extra meat shields wrestlers. Plus, that'll give your armorsmith more work.

I'd prefer the save game file because the Unreal map won't anyway be a realtime copy of an active DF map.

Oh, man. I just had the most awesome vision of a map that's half above ground, half tunnels, with dorfs here and there digging new tunnels, then caving them in, and digging them out again. Not sure how you could easily communicate to the players which tunnels were open at any given moment, though.