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Leafsnail, you have no idea how badly I want to say "And then a jump to the right." ...but lets save the TimeWarp for another time. (Actually I think we got those reversed, but whatevs)

Anyway, I am caught up on the discussion finally.

Great Wall of Text

I propose that no one is allowed to quote this post without paraphrasing. Ever.

Taking the post as a whole, we see that you are supporting your arguments with logical analysis. This is good; people trying to parse, who have semi-hard evidence that they are actively pursuing scum get a few points to their Trustability score. As such, I am tentatively disuaded from voting to kill you on the first day, and would disuade others from the same.

I would say the same for ToonyMan. After his claim, he has let the scum know that he gains powers as people die. Even though this will suck for the town, he can now be tested to verify this (we can see if he inherits a role of whoever dies next) and will in all likelyhood be killed by scum tonight. If he isn't killed, then chances are that his role is actually a scum role. In either case, a lynch on him is a waste, and should be spent on scumhunting those who we can't test yet.

As an aside, (and call it buddying, or whatever you want, but) Toony seems legitimate to me. One night will be able to prove this.

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To investigators (if we have any that can glean good information), I would advise you to take heed of suspicious and vocal folk. If you find a scum, it can be hard to incriminate a lurker just on that basis, without revealing your hand. (in this context, I do not propose that this precludes me, in case any of you are going to try and twist this. <_<)

I think CobaltKobold has been a bit on the scummish side with paper-thin logic supporting direct attacks. I still don't have enough knowledge about the scenario to feel comfortable making a serious lynch vote, though. I'll try to get a better read when I have the time later today.

EDIT: (before y'all freak out, it was a formating edit: I botched a quote)

Good eve, all.

Vector, I fear you are thinking entirely too deeply about three very content-light posts. I shall address the most scurrilous rumors first:

Quote from: Solifuge on January 22, 2010, 07:33:50 pm

Oh wow... that was definitely Pentameter coming from Nirur Torir, though there was no set meter  so it's technically not Iambic. I love this game already.

Hmm... perhaps Nirur Torir is in fact a murderous Macbeth? What say you, knave?

Passive reaction-test.

I happen to be a literature geek, and thus Nirur Torir waxing Shakespearean completely on a whim made my day. The random vote was primarily to draw attention to how awesome this was, while also staying on topic with a "reaction-test."

Quote from: Solifuge on January 22, 2010, 08:58:07 pm

Quote from: Nirur Torir on January 22, 2010, 08:22:05 pm

The Pentameter isn't really my role, unfortunately. When I signed up, I decided to try it for my first post for no apparent reason. I'll drop it.

Awww... but I liked it. 

Also, RedWarrior0 where were you on the night before last? And the night before that? Are you a villain? Are you even here?!?

Buddying with Nirur Torir.  Terrible RVS questions, all in the same vein.  Flopping.  Lurker-hunting.  Potentially searching for easy lynches.  High-tension behavior.

Hysteria strikes again. To say that I'm "buddying" with Nirur is a stretch at best. I loved the poetics, but that says nothing for his role or team, and anyone with half a brain knows the difference between complimenting a person, and siding with them as a player. I've played this game with close friends all the time, and yet I still lynch/night kill them without trouble. There is a separation between game and reality here.

Also, having seen that RedWarrior0 hadn't yet posted here either, and knowing that the same thing had happened in other games running parallel to this one, I asked "Are you here?" honestly... it's a matter of seeing if he is a career lurker, or was actually away at length. The rest is just how I play; if you can't deal with someone treating a game like a game, while also taking passive critical reads of players and their statements, you'll have to deal.

Quote from: Solifuge on January 23, 2010, 06:08:11 pm

I suspect Christopher Lloyd did a better job at this role than I. It's still quite awesome though.

Also, Unvote RedWarrior0. Glad of you to join us!

Unvotes and then disappears after RVS, when things start heating up and getting more difficult.  She fits the scum profile perfectly.

Any more questions?

After the initial posts, I dropped into heavy lurk-mode this game. I work a 9-to-5, and am looking for an apartment IRL right now, which has occupied the better part of my time during the week. This is also in part a tactical experiment, attempted in response to my fate in Aztec Mafia. Being vocal, putting myself out there, and proposing sound logical plans for the town got me lynched on the first day, which was infuriating because my plan involved sacrificing myself for the Town during the Night, and was totally ruined.

Also, as for any more questions, I would ask why you're working so hard to spit fire and venom at everyone. I can understand encouraging activity in lurkers, which is what I'm passing this off as, but in so doing you're making sweeping generalizations based on an ABSENCE of information, which is a huge logical fallacy. You can't prove what -is- by using a lack of available information.

Also, you may consider me sufficiently prodded. I'll be observing for a wee bit yet. When's the deadline?

I'm not trying to be snarky, but Seriously, what would I have edited my post to include? Have you even looked at it? It was a damned joke.

...actually, strike that. I don't want to be a poor sport, but I am seriously done with this. I would like to have fun and play a game next time, not get involved in a verbal slugging match with people.

Unvote Neruz, Vote Solifuge. I'm out.

The Pentameter isn't really my role, unfortunately. When I signed up, I decided to try it for my first post for no apparent reason. I'll drop it.

Awww... but I liked it. 

Also, RedWarrior0 where were you on the night before last? And the night before that? Are you a villain? Are you even here?!?

You know, now that you mention it, I do remember how he got on IRC.

Oh wow... that was definitely Pentameter coming from Nirur Torir, though there was no set meter  so it's technically not Iambic. I love this game already.

Hmm... perhaps Nirur Torir is in fact a murderous Macbeth? What say you, knave?

This is quite possibly the most mean-spirited Mafia game I have ever played, or indeed seen.

Hot damn.