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Hm, we seem to be down a pirate, I mean pilot.
Navigating is *like* piloting, right?  Good luck with that (:

Rolan7, I don't know if you saw it in the scumchat... but you absolutely must stop trying to buddy that much.  Had Errol done what I was hoping he would immediately--i.e., say "sure!  I'll ditch Akigagak and help you vote the scum down"--you would have been in a world of trouble.  A scumteam that focused more on making friends and less on hiding would be quite dangerous in combination with you.

Additionally, though the massclaim was a good idea, the way you tried to organize it was poorly thought out.  Good strategy, not-so-fabulous execution.

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HELL.  To all the townies, quit with the blatant rampant ridiculous buddying, would you?  It makes it really easy for the scum to either pick you off or move you around like chess pieces.  Not that they did that this game, but I would have >_>

Thank you Vector, I'll try to take that to heart.
I really messed up in the early game, heh.  Particularly against dorf.  Just because someone plays poorly in a beginner's mafia doesn't mean they're scum, lol.

P.S. I go rescue all the townies.  Then use accounting-fu to give myself Errol and Akigagak's salaries.

3.5 weeks, it's finally over, wow.
Yeah, I think this was Akigagak's fault.  I can't describe how if feels to see that even in his scumchat he didn't understand me, and Errol did.  Kudos, Errol.

I wanted to quit too, I came real close during that whole locked-with-two-scum period.  I needed a town replacement bad, maybe Webadict was overkill heh, but I was close to leaving myself.

Good game Errol,
sorry Dorf,
no hard feelings ExKirby,
thank you Leafsnail,
salute Webadict

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OMG I WON LOLOLOL (thanks to Akigagak and webadict)

Special thanks to SirBayer.  Sorry for all the crap I gave you, just stress, you did fine. 
And your flavor text is delicious.

Hey, all the crewmates got rescued right?  Particularly Captain Forklift?

Good mor...
OMG Captain my Captain!  Noooo!
My precious captain, also my forklift driver, we will rescue you!

Die Errol die!

How long must we wait to save the captain?

What happens if we mass claim:
Assume 1 high priest, 1 aztec artifact bearer, 1 Cortes, 3 tribesmen (no tax collector)
Cortes claims to be a tribesman of course, so we see 4 "tribesmen".
Even though we have 1 lynch plus 3 nightkills, we can't just kill off all 4 "tribesmen" because Cortes is NK immune and will kill the priest who finds him.

Plan 3-kill: Claim, then choose the three most suspicious "tribesmen".  Lynch one, assign one to the artifact bearer, and one to the high priest.
25% chance: Scum lynched, we win.
50% chance: Attempted sacrifice on Cortes, now we know who he is and have at least two town left to lynch him (since he will have NK'd someone, probably the priest not targeting him).  We win.
25% chance: We lose.
So, 75% straight chance of success, assuming we pick at absolute random.

Plan 2-kill: Claim, lynch one, then have the High Priest kill someone (since they have to)
25% chance: Scum lynched, we win.
25% chance: High Priest hits Cortes and dies, lynch and we win.
50% chance: Scum NKs, probably High Priest.  Left with 1 scum and 3 town, one of whom is artifact bearer.
Safer.  Only 50% straight chance of instant win, but no 25% chance of losing.

Plan no-lynch: Claim, no lynch, assign someone to Priest and to Artifact Bearer.
50% chance: One of our NKers hits the Cortes, the other gets NK'd, left with Cortes + 2 tribesmen, we win.
50% chance: 1 scum and 3 town, same as previous plan except the scum chooses which of our power roles get to live.

Summary: Do we go for the 75% chance of an instant win, with the risk that we find the Cortes *least* scummy of four people?  I will be one of those four people, by the way.  Or do we play it safe with Plan 2-kill?  Plan 2-kill seems marginally better than plan no-lynch.

After all this, I'm satisfied that a mass-claim is a decent, perhaps good, idea.

Well, here's a fourth vote for day shortening, for what it's worth.

Quote from: Leafsnail on February 01, 2010, 12:49:36 pm

Quoted for truth.
A lot happened since I checked the thread around 11 this morning, and it confuses me!

Org, you sound a *lot* like someone I knew in real life.  Charmingly calm yet crazy.  Are your initials AH?

As for Errol, I really don't know.  Maybe he thought Akigagak got hammered, so he gave up the game?  Webadict's suggestion makes sense too.  Maybe he was trying to move just a vote or two to himself, then scum wins because the votes are divided.

If you'd care to read even the last 5 pages, you'd see that Errol and Akigagak formed a team against first me, then Webadict.  Just see how Errol ignores every case I made against Akigagak.  Even when I accuse Webadict of trying to restart the flame war, and suggest I was hasty in condemning Errol, Errol merely calls me a lurker then blindly accepts that Akigagak has a good reason not to post for several days.

I am not Webadict's buddy.  I'm just sure Errol and Akigagak are scum, and you don't sound like you've read the thread yet.

We're all glad you're here and we can finally finish this, but please, read what has been posted.  I know it's tempting to find a lurker to lynch (though in that case you should really be voting Akigagak) but we're on page 28.  Incriminating things have been said.