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How are the chances of having different icons for ores and stone (depending on their value) now?
You know, the thing I have been constantly bugging you about...

You could use Wine or upload your save for a Win user to delete the splatter for you.
Although I don't think the splatter affects the framerate that much.

Better than the talking-skull-from-Planescape But I still think it looks out of place in a realistic set. Maybe you could make a proper 'pile o' bones' that looked like a picked over corpse.

I agree.

So, i am afraid, because, shining dx10 DF is not exactly main thing to do, while whole lots of things are needed to be done first:
- soap fixes,
- new GUI for handling i.e. 45 types of plants in LOGICAL way(SORTING! - absolutely neccesary, imo),
- new GUI/overlay elements - i need MORE pernament info in screen(mood of chosen being, statuses etc) - i am aware how many things are going on ingame - problem is - i CANNOT READ about it(that's why i was horny about idea of bubbles AND question about how much can we log), cannot see it, etc.

Well, no one here can do anything about this.
All programming is Toady's work. He just outsourced the graphics part to Baughn and co. And he can't change the GUI (well not so much as you want ) .

masses of brainless consumers

As if they would have fun with DF, where losing is fun. The gameplay will not change.

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It requires directx 10-capable hardware.

All right guys, maybe let's forget about it then.
It's becoming ridiculous a bit now.
Actually, my only need is having nonrestricted tile assignement(any number OF TILES) system.

That's Toady's part and it will be done. And you certainly won't need DX10 Hardware for it.
Vote for "Full graphics support" here, if you haven't already
We just try to have it earlier, which is hard, and needs the hardware, don't forget that.

It looked like this:
(D)esigner: This car can have a TV!
(C)rowd: Yay!
(D): Also it will have a rocket engine!
(C): Yippee!
(D): Also it can fly and swim underwater!
(C): Awesome!
(D): It will cost 10 million dollars.
(C): ...

Let's not forget that we are trying to work around given limitations here.
It's not that DF would necessarily need DX10 hardware to show some eye candy (like a tile for everything or "surrounding-aware" tiles) if some things were implemented from the start.

Baughn: I think Deon means switching to a different tileset when zooming out and switching back when zooming in,
so we can use icons instead of downscaled graphics when zoomed far out. Like making a 3x3 workshop to a little symbol or something.

Zooming in seems to be covered if you downscale the "fully zoomed in" 64x64/whatever tileset like you said, but switching the tileset here can do some good, too.
We could use "iconized" chests and so on in default view and when we zoom in, we see a super-detailed view like in the mockup I posted (source: unknown by the way).
I doubt every 64x64 tile for maximum zoom level looks good downsized when zoomed out - not because lanczos is bad, but because it is too "natural" and so too indistinguishable from afar. It all becomes a blend of earth colors.
Example: Gems in a rough wall. They would have to be really HUGE and unnatural on the 64x64 tile, so that we see them at all on 16x16.
Example 2: Mason's workshop. default zoom level: like we have it now a bit "iconized", zoomed in: super-detailed, realistic, zoomed out: an icon
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7305/newcanvasiz.jpg

But you have most of it already in your code, so: HOORAY!

Pretty sure OpenGL doesn't guarantee anything about rendering order anyway.

*nods* Transpancy and draw order. That topic is worth it's own chapter! 

Absolutely beautiful!
A shame, that trees don't have the correct size in DF to begin with.
Hm... Maybe we could do the same "semi-multitile" thing for trees, too?
So that the "tree tile" from Vanilla DF just represents the trunk and we display a 2x3 or something tree at that place?