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Mod dogs to be vermin hunters, and simply don't BRING any cats!

One, a fortress built into an isolated mesa. By that I mean, a hill with a flat top.

I have since deleted the save file, but one of my early fortresses had a large cliff face on the west edge, and a sizable, isolated mesa closer to the center of the map.  The mesa was the starting point of my fortress, though parts of it extended underground into the cliff face.  The inital entrance was on top of the mesa, with an "airlocked" trade depot craved into the side. (Outer and inner wall grates operated by levers inside the fortress:  one was locked as long as the other was open.)   There was an underground river (and no reliable overground water) so I had a long constructed aqueduct 3z-levels above "ground", which was eventually intended to be pumped into a cistern-tower above the fortress for a central waterfall/deep well setup. 

This was all screwed by a single kobold thief who picked his way into the aqueduct via maintenance doors, got blocked in the aqueduct when the escaping water froze behind him, and picked the access hatches into my main fortress while the aqueduct was filling in an attempt to drown him.  Instead it drowned the entire bottom z-level of the fortress. 

I'd like to try something like that again someday, it had real potential!

I believe trees are "buildings" for the purposes of burnination, but I can't remember ever seeing  one "deconstruct" due to droppage.

yeah, I would like this for named creatures hides as well. It bothered me way back when I killed a named giant scorpion and giant jaguar after much dwarven injury intending to make awesome armor out of them and found they were just normal leather :/

I think you'd still be half-disappointed, because I don't believe scorpions leave skulls?

Thanks for clarifying that for me, guys!  I thought it had to be water from an underground source, it makes it much easier if I can tap into the vertical drainshaft of the underground river and "discover" it, rather than fighting a horde of frogmen/giant olms/cave crocodiles for the water.

Logically, you'd think that they would just drown in their sleep, but I believe that they do not.  Will have to experiment.

Quote from: Mount on April 06, 2009, 06:41:30 pm

Quote from: sonerohi on April 06, 2009, 06:24:05 pm

It is physically impossible for one of those dinky little ponds to put a whole fortress under water.

welllllll...  ponds do refill when it rains, so if it was a big pond, in a super-rainy biome, and you never plugged the leak..  you MIGHT be able to drown your fortress over a very long period.    In one of my early fortresses, I expanded a pond for an underground refuse pile (open to sky, so no miasma...)  A cat got locked in and and after a very rainy spring, the water did eventually get deep enough to drown the little moggie.  Took the better portion of two seasons, though.

That's... deliciously sadistic. A slow, watery death? The only better way to do it would've been magma rain that slowly burns the cat.

In my defense, the little furball kept waiting at EVERY DOOR that I marked pet-impassable, until a dwarf passed through it.  Then the rotten little couch-clawer would dart through while the door was open.  (so, basically, behaving exactly like a real cat...) 

I figured, given how much cats love to swim, the water would be crueler than magma.

It is physically impossible for one of those dinky little ponds to put a whole fortress under water.

welllllll...  ponds do refill when it rains, so if it was a big pond, in a super-rainy biome, and you never plugged the leak..  you MIGHT be able to drown your fortress over a very long period.    In one of my early fortresses, I expanded a pond for an underground refuse pile (open to sky, so no miasma...)  A cat got locked in and and after a very rainy spring, the water did eventually get deep enough to drown the little moggie.  Took the better portion of two seasons, though.