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Quote from: Dwarf fort 27 on August 17, 2009, 02:22:24 pm

any suggestions?

Isolate tantruming and insane dwarves so they don't kill more people - lock them away, wall them up where they stand, whatever it takes.  Take the effort to look at every profile of your dwarves - use the stable ones to keep your fortress alive while you're recovering - this is (in no particular order) Booze, Food (Planting, butchering and/or hunting, etc.), more Booze and Security.  And booze.  Do NOT worry about Trade Goods or any other industry until you have (most) everyone calmed down.

Also, start happiness projects.  Zoos, statue gardens, waterfalls.  You need more happy thoughts.

check out dwarf therapist - trialled it on monday evening - single best detail? being able to view the happiness of my dwarves. it's given as a number but they are also grouped in happiness bands. very easy to spot who is happy enough to do work etc, and who needs some spa/rest/relaxation/happiness treatment....

(You think we could write a hak for this bb that just posts all these in a few keystrokes?) 

(please. for this, and for marksdwarf problems  - the list of issues at the press of a key would be great)

The quote from the wiki says that they will never spar. Shooting at an archery range gets done the same amount as sparring, and could be thought of as similar in the game engine.

that's true - i always assumed (big no no there) that they may be "invaluable as a marksdwarf" implied they could still get "shooting at archery range". certainly i have promoted a couple of spine-injured dwarves to being marksdwarves before....but maybe i've got it wrong, and in fact, the injury will in some case stop training. except that after she received the injury, she then fired at least one shot, to gain 'dabbling marksdwarf' hmmmmmm.

Anyway, try changing his weapon setup to just a crossbow, no buckler or armour at all.

will try this in about 12 hours when i'm back.

hey, there a bazillion newbies without the ability to use the search function, but this is a special and unusual case because it's not that you've forgotten anything, just that something is wrong.

cheers!

We hate you for far different reasons, Z, and for so many of them.  

yay, multiple hatreds!

...it's a marksdwarf question! yay! but with a bit of a twist. explanation:

new immigrants rock up. 6 get drafted into a new expanding military. 5 spar up to wrestler quite quickly, but one, bomrek, stays as a recruit. quick check of her wounds - she's got a bruised (brown) spine. 'that's fine', says i, 'i was gonna make a couple of marksdwarves anyway'. quick check of the wiki on 'wound' and 'marksdwarf' suggested:

Wounds to the nervous system (the neck, brain, or spine) will never heal. If these wounds are not too severe the dwarf will be able to continue his daily routine without any problems. Military dwarves with nervous wounds will never spar, however. Melee dwarves with nervous injuries may still be valulable as a Marksdwarf.

all good. then:

1. bomrek switched to crossbow.
2. bomrek collects quiver and bow.
3. ample supply of bone and wood bolts checked - none forbidden, all accessible.
4. bomrek's hands checked - all clear, nothing held.
5. bomrek's status checked - standing down.
6. archery range checked - all functioning fine.
7. personality checked - no obvious laziness - one thing of note: "bomrek prefers others to take the initiative".

Tosid, the other dwarf who is to become a marksdwarf, gets on training, fairly quickly. Bomrek fires a shot or two - dabbling marksdwarf. then nothing. for 3 months. she wanders about a bit, takes a lot of breaks. At first, she was in a squad under Tosid. After a while, I moved her into her own squad to see if that made a difference. It didn't. I tried deactivating her, and she immediately scurried off to find work, but on reactivation, she basically froze to where she was for a while, before then maybe walking to take a break. slowly. direly slowly. my question, in multiple parts:

• is the spine wound stopping her train as a marksdwarf, contrary to wiki information and my own experience with other dorfs?
• is it something to do with bomrek's personality that is making her so slow at training? she is failing to take the initiative?
• am i forgetting something really obvious?
• could it be to do with a natural preference against being in the military?
• am i over thinking this?

thank you in advance for help - apologies for yet another marksdwarf query - i felt because this wasn't the standard 'how do i get them to train?' question i should ask...although it sort of is. **hangs head in shame**

judge judge judge! me judge! judge good! i will rename myself

melbil mcjudgeface!


but just keep me as zooeyglass for the judging...

me wantee!

i'd just note from the point of view of adjudication, it is worth having something that can be seen on a map or 'z' screen to be actually judged. that could mean posting a 'z' screen of when one only has one dwarf left in the case of survival, but for the river-cross challenge the bridge was something that could be evaluated and scored. a survival challenge will be lotsafun but it's worth having clearly 'judgable' goals. 

yes, it is (i believe).