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seeds are stored in bags and then possibly placed in barrels or rock pots.

Yeah, I finally dug deeper into the pot's descriptions. Turns out it's seeds inside of bags inside of pots. Weird.

There used to be a bug where seeds in rock pots could disappear if a caravan brought those seeds as well, so I usually store them in a seperate seed stockpile. You can have 200 seeds at most for any crop, and 100 seeds per bag, so a 4x5 stockpile will let you grow all indoor and 5 outdoor crops, which is more than I usually do.

Oh. Interesting.

Owned items are always clothing, though militairy can also "own" food. What usually happens is a goblin dying and a dwarf deciding that those socks look really nice, claiming them and when he has some free time, goes to store them. Since children born in the fort don't come with clothing included, they'll usually claim anything they can from the next goblin ambush. If that goblin died by drowning, the child would decide to pick up the troll fur socks, pathing would start and not find a path into the pond (can't swim) and you'll get the message you described.

Ok, I'm pretty certain that this is a seed storage issue, and I can't for the life of me think of what sort of 'owned' items my dwarves are magically losing. Remember, this is a small, young fortress. I've not dug into any caverns, I've had no hostile activity on my map at all, had no accidents, etc. I did have two dwarves die, but that was several seasons AFTER this problem started.

But since everyone keeps insisting that "Owned" means personal belongings rather than just seeds, how do I figure out which item(s) are causing the problem? There's thousands of objects on this map.

top of my head:
1. it could be that the seed designated for moving became designated for planting, and the farmer was first.

So two dwarves can be assigned the same item for a task? (Storage/planting)

2. seeds are meant to go in bags(I think)

It could be that this is just a lesser-known use for them. I didn't even know rock pots could be used for food/drink until a week or two ago.

Verify that the item IS actually reachable (Military draft or temporary burrows can be used to position dwarves where you want them), that there are no burrow restrictions in place preventing the dwarf from reaching the item, that the custom stockpile wasn't changed to hold seeds (but exclude the ones not making spam),

I don't know where the items that are creating the problem are located.

Possibly because the first part of the job is actually "pick up seed" and we're failing on that part before we try to move it to stocks. Possibly because the seed is in an area where dwarves can't reach the stockpile. Check for forbidden doors, raised bridges, etc. Look at the job list, and try forbidding an item or two until you get the spam to stop - then figure out what those items have in common (usually, a location they can't reach or that they are unreachable).

Well, no doors are unlocked, and the layout is very basic so I haven't locked off any part of the area. No one's been in any rivers, etc. Every portion of my fortress is accessible, except a water cistern, and there are no items inside that except for living fish.

A were-capybara wouldn't howl!

It would sound like this. Or this. Or these.

Just sayin'. (Oh mai science, so cute!)

But I don't want to rap... oh, therapist!

Right.

Bah, I tend to be "against" 3rd party tools, but DF is a bit unfinished, so I s'pose it couldn't hurt.

Though it looks like that program isn't compatible with the latest version of DF?

Ok. Did that. He left the meeting area and went down the stairs. Too bad the point I was sending him to was on the same level as the meeting area, which means he's now running away from where I told him to move to.

Actually, not running away, just holding still, a few levels below where he should be going.

... oh what the hell. You mean to tell me that it's not only possible to leave a point "open for editing" after closing the notes menu, but even if you SAVE, QUIT, and reload the game WEEKS later, the point will still be the one you're editing rather than placing a new one when you try to do so?

Ok, movement and stationing worked. He's now fighting.

However... What. The. Fuck? Y'know? I gave this guy a kill order, he ignored it, despite showing it as his current task. What's the point of a kill order then?

(EDIT Oh, and of course he kills my one dwarf fighter. Wow, the military in this version is BROKEN. Guess I'm not saving this fortress, as apparently there's supposedly a bug that once you add a dwarf to the military, they never are a civilian again, and I can't afford to lobotomize more dwarves.)

What do you mean "special"?

So far as I can tell, it's a standard lizardman.

Yeah, did all that, still not working.