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Hrm.... Installing FreeBSD seems to risky to do on my one and only computer for the near future, now to look for other window emulator to play this game. Let see if I can find a pcguest serial number.

Well, in this game missiles have all the range. I'm somewhat disappointed you can't fire off an unblockable/un-missile-defensible projectile extremely fast at long range but require a load of power and reload extremely slowly. (sniper ship anyone?)

Railguns still have crap range in Aurora. If you want close combat, a ship has to be extremely fast armed to the teeth with missile defense, which makes it slow

I've seen some laser with 120m km range and an ROF of 10 seconds.

Quote from: Duelmaster409 on January 16, 2010, 03:04:00 pm

I love space games, I really do. But.. this game seems waaay too massive for me to get into.

You don't have to understand everything for couple of games.
When creating new game make universe of just couple systems without any life then chose in the Starting empire parameters "conventional empire" give "number of starting resarch facilities at least 15" "and starting tech points 0".
You will have to resarch and design everything by yourself (use tutorials), learn to make and use task forces, assign captains...
Concentrate on small goals like building a shuttle with trans-newton engines, geosurvey moon, create colony on mars... ...don't have to conquer 500 system universe in first play. 
Read steves fiction specially Trans newton campaign. (Part 1-5 are fascinating and partially disturbing...part 6 is fucking terrifying.) It will give you inspiration and teaches you many usefull stuff.

The TNT story campaign is wonderful, it really kept me on my seat, and so far the best bit of sci fi I read this year. It has no conclusion, just FYI. It doesn't end on a cliff hangar though. It serves as this wondrous narrative tutorial. A lot of the story element were derived from the game itself, the expanded diplomacy actions were all fictitious and can't be readily duplicated in the game itself.

I was really going to be interested in the *spoiler* in the san fransico dust cloud potential conflicts, that was really going to prove a tactical challenge for the terran commonwealth, also the *spoiler* was in office for like 15+ years at the end, that way over due for an *spoiler*.

I wish I knew why the Terran Commonwealth didn't try to terraform *spoiler* from its nuclear wasteland. Maybe there arent enough mineral left to make it worthwhile or maybe its serving as a reminder.

When is the terran commonwealth going to stop with the missiles, missiles everything. (Although it appears steve in general likes missiles, as his other stories, all his ship are missiles heavy.)

He made these FAC craft for system defense, they were armed with missiles, when they should still have the fire control from for meson from *spoiler* and *spoiler* as well as quad meson cannons. The range shouldn't be an issue since it design to get in close and wail on the oppenent ship.

I dont think they can be missiles at 800 tons. From what I've seen of other screen captures is that they group missiles together with their name x (# in group), those listing match those of id'ing individual ships, and NPR from what I gleamed off the forum do not make use of the way point feature for missles and therefore they would be moving, and there no speed on the read out, so they are orbiting or landed on the planet.
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However you can design missiles that large though.

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NOES! It..I think i might have to go for a diplomatic negotiations..

*Goes to cry silently in a corner*

That is a lot of ships, but all sorta small. Did you do a conventional start? I would try to place a deep space tracking instaltion in system to get some further intel to see how fast they can go, and possibly get a hand on their active sensor strength. With the tonnage, you may have a tech advantage over them.

DF players ranting about bad interface and lack of tutorials?! Holly shit!

For my part after couple of tries im running a working empire and having lots of fun.

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Yay! My first real combat ship!  I have yet to encounter enemies and it likely has 100 little components that don't make any sense but it's done, built, captained, and a pair of them are flying around my home star on training! 

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Couatl class Cruiser    7250 tons     781 Crew     695.6 BP      TCS 145  TH 240  EM 60
1655 km/s     Armour 2-33     Shields 2-450     Sensors 6/8/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 58
Annual Failure Rate: 140%    IFR: 1.9%    Maintenance Capacity 180 MSP    Max Repair 51 MSP

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (6)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 49.7 billion km   (347 days at full power)
Beta R450/15 Shields (1)   Total Fuel Cost  15 Litres per day

Triple 12cm C2 Near Ultraviolet Laser 5k Turret (1x3)    Range 120,000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Power 12-6     RM 3    ROF 10        4 4 4 3 2 2 1 1 1 1
Twin 12cm C2 Near Ultraviolet Laser 7k Turret (2x2)    Range 120,000km     TS: 7000 km/s     Power 8-4     RM 3    ROF 10        4 4 4 3 2 2 1 1 1 1
Single 12cm C2 Visible Light Laser 13k Turret (3x1)    Range 80,000km     TS: 13000 km/s     Power 4-2     RM 2    ROF 10        4 4 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 0
Fire Control S04 64-2000 (6)    Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 2000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 37 30 22
Pressurised Water Reactor PB-1 AR-0 (6)     Total Power Output 12    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Long range Grav Active Search Sensor (1)     GPS 96     Range 960k km    Resolution 8
Thermal Sensor TH1-6 (1)     Sensitivity 6     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  6m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-8 (1)     Sensitivity 8     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  8m km

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


Watch it get blown away without even seeing what it gets blown away by the first time I end up in combat.

I don't think you're reactor has enough energy to power all  6 lasers. I think you'll see a serve drop in ROF due to this. I would drop the shield and maybe a laser, up the armor and reactor if you can. (dont know if you can.)

How does this look for my first ship?

I'm considering restarting, now that I've got a lot of stuff figured out, but I'd like to know how this looks.

Cestus is a punching weapon, because everyone names the--SHIVANS I'M GONNA BE THE SHIVANS

Everyone names their ships after weapons.

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Cestus class Cruiser    5550 tons     556 Crew     677 BP      TCS 111  TH 480  EM 0
4324 km/s     Armour 3-27     Shields 0-0     Sensors 24/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 28
Annual Failure Rate: 82%    IFR: 1.1%    Maintenance Capacity 229 MSP    Max Repair 32 MSP

Ion Engine E8 (8)    Power 60    Fuel Use 80%    Signature 60    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 40.5 billion km   (108 days at full power)

Twin 10cm Point Defense Laser Turret (2x2)    Range 30,000km     TS: 12000 km/s     Power 6-4     RM 1    ROF 10        3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
12cm C2 Visible Light Laser (2)    Range 80,000km     TS: 4324 km/s     Power 4-2     RM 2    ROF 10        4 4 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 0
Standard BFC (1)    Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 2000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 37 30 22
Standard Point-Defense BFC (1)    Max Range: 32,000 km   TS: 8000 km/s     69 37 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (2)     Total Power Output 18    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Anti-Missile Sensor (1)     GPS 32     Range 320k km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor S32-R100 (1)     GPS 3200     Range 32.0m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH4-24 (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

EDIT:  I forgot to actually put the ship down.

Your active search sensor resolution is to crumby to be useful, though the range is quite good. I also think you have an over power reactor for your needs.

Well, it probably doesn't matter, long distance travel is generally abstracted no matter how you do it, so the vehicle is more like a place to hold equipment and something comparatively immobile that needs to be protected. It would help to keep the party together, but otherwise I think we could safely do without anything...

Well yea, long distance travel has to be abstracted. No one (well sane) would want to rp 'Are We There Yet?', but if given cars then car related combat could and probably would ensue, unless I can force a way to make it more economically feasible to not drive and fight.