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You have to kill their liaison, who only shows up once your population is high enough.

Any info on how high this population requirement is (and if/how it can be changed)? The fact that I only remember having seen an elven liaison once or twice leads me to believe that it must be either pretty high, or not the only requirement.

I also think you can't use magma forges and such if you don't discover it.

Not necessarily. In my latest fort I haven't had my magma discovery event either, and yet I see magma-related buildings under .

How's THAT for a mental image?

What's more interesting is whether that cadaver will stay there forever, being sort of glitched, or if can be taken down by getting rid of the tree.

If it's the former case, then I guess one could build a ramp a stairs next to the tree to get that thing down.

Right, the test you've proposed makes sense. I can't tell you if I'm going to test that out soon though, as I'm currently tinkering with my game in ways that lead to regens left and right.

It may be that they've drank something for which they have a preference, or just generally like to drink in the same way they generally like to sleep in beds.

The part about preferences in your post makes sense (intuitively, as I have no idea about the game mechanics), the part about beds and stuff not so much. By that logic, they'd have to be getting thoughts about sleeping in legendary beds all the time, which I can't remember ever seeing.

I'm pretty sure I see my dwarves get thoughts from "legendary" drinks all the time, so I second Skorpion's assertion of there being a hidden quality level. What else could it be? The last time I saw a mention of legendary drinks in my fort, I had no sunberries, or whatever those were called (I'm talking about the fruit that lets you produce wine of quality 5, whereas most other drinks are a 2 or 3). Or do personal preferences affect this? I.e. a dwarf who likes dwarven wine will rate it "legendary", whereas another might call it "fine".

qoonpooka:
Training up a grower to legendary certainly doesn't take forever. My sole grower, who did little other work, hit legendary in what seemed like 1.5 or 2 years. Sure, a bookkeeper might hit legendary faster, but 2 years for a grower is nothing to complain about.

Yes, that is what I meant. She's middle-aged, not old, at least not in my books.

And I disagree with you: Old lady tits are very menacing.

And I disagree with you as well: Madonna is not old.