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What needs to be understood before people get carried away is that a program is only as fast as it's slowest calculation. As has been stated several times in the past, a faster path-finding algorithm would do far, far more to reduce Dwarf Fortress Lag than a marginal increase in processing speed. You could have 12-20 fps at 80 dwarfs, upgrade to the latest cpu, and get 12-20 fps at 90 dwarfs.
Even when we've managed to create the perfect, light speed, quantum entanglement driven CPUs, we'll still be getting 12-20 fps at 80 dwarfs because by then Dwarf Fortress will include molecular interaction and keep track of protein folding in every cell in the Dwarven body.
I sort of just made this thread like a week or two ago
Maybe we should make a list a ask Toady to make it sticky... people just do not use the search function.
i could be completely wrong but i was under the impression that over fishing (certainly of sea and ocean stock) was a modern phenomenon simply because the sea is so productive compared with historical population densities. The north sea is only in plight today because we scoup out tonnes of fish in huge nets.
That's just plain not right. Overfishing and overhunting have been problems throughout all of history. Not just human history, but all of for animals, as well - populations rise, overgraze or overhunt, kill off their food supply, and start to starve, until their numbers drop low, and the plants or prey numbers start to recover from having less grazers/predators.
Whalers killed off the vast majority of whales without huge nets.
The people of Easter Island are believed to have dissapeared in part because they overtaxed the land, which led to them having to rely on fishing exclusively for their food, and eventually exhausted the fish populations, inflicting famine upon the island, whose remaining population afterwards was not enough to sustain human life on the island.
As long as you are killing more fish than can respawn, you're going to overfish... and if the only limit on population is food, then if you can feed your population now, it will rise, and when it rises, you have to get more food.
Fishing is a different matter, if and only if they are ocean fishers with boats capable of surviving voyages out into deep water, and/or they have located themselves in a place with an irregularly large fish population (like cod were in the New World before they were overfished), and the fishers are actually careful to avoid overfishing... (which doesn't seem like a very gobliny trait to me...) It's difficult to say how large such places might get, as even most fishing-heavy cultures tended to garden. I would say the norse colonists of Greenland and their Inuit neighbors are a good example of people who survived entirely off fishing or occasional grazing livestock, mostly because it's just too cold to farm. (Note: This did not go well for the Norse, whose entire colony starved to death.) It would depend largely on being able to claim a large enough body of water that they never overfish, and can prevent other nearby villages from popping up to fish the same waters. (Best estimate, though, would be from English fishing villages or the like where they are carved into a little valley, and you could get a few hundred, MAAAAYBE a thousand people in a "city" based entirely on fishing.)
Stocked fishing, such as specifically breeding oysters for fishing can expand your ability to fish (as less adults need to survive to adulthood to spawn if you protect the eggs from predators for them), but only if you have dedicated fish breeding programs.
Being as goblins are found in mountains, however, requiring being near an ocean may make goblins nearly impossible to place.
