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It really depends and oddly enough it may be the "Being digged up" part that actually saves them.

Since Id figure a constant exposure to air would have made them long since rust through.

Well people fighting the civil war didn't bury their rifles and stuff in the battlefield, the battle was fought and the feild was abandoned and the stuff was exposed to wind and rain and eventiually covered with dust, loose soil and dead leaves and such and buried over time. Just under the surface though.

It makes sense that a fallen hero's mighty sword might be found by digging around in an old battlefield, less cool if you find perfectly preserved socks and clothes and usable chainmail or whatnot.

More likely to just find z-levels of mass graves in soil layers, full of bones and skulls with a few rusted bits and peices.

I dunno, people of dug up old rifles and swords from civil war battlefields from back in the day. Not to mention swords and armor from a thousand years ago that are scubbed clean, stuck in a museum and are more or less what they were back when the person wearing it was killed. It stands to reason that some of the equipment would usable, but degraded a bit.

Still, in DF, I'd figure scavengers and other sorts would pick the battlefeild clean if you didn't claim it yourself or actively try to stop enterprising folks from gathering up all the dead goblin stuff and taking it away.

The latter thing would be irrelevant once hauling is improved though, hauling is the only real thing keeping players from taking everything any invader drops and trading it.

Did they have formulas though or just logs of results?

Even up to WW2 they didn't use formulas, solution books were commonly used, where you looked up the results of the equations rather than do the math in the field. Maybe slide rules in some cases, like for snipers? I don't know what they use today but probably computers.

I can believe they recorded how successful their hits were in a plane, but IIRC the z-axis was more complicated and for those few who kept such records they were closely guarded military secrets. I can see a dwarf doing it.  Maybe that's what they're doing when they're 'training'... making a logbook of how their machien works.

Yeah they had formulas and equations and everything. The weight of the projectle, the weight of the counterweight, the distance, elevation, almost anything you could think of they had very concise and accurate measurements and "plug in for x" algebra for figuring out how to assemble and place their seige engines. It wasn't let to chance.

Also, snipers, modern artillery and the ballistics formulated around that was around long before WWII. They did use tables and circular plotting wheels ("Whiz wheels" in modern contexts) but back then, they had ample time to plan out their seige, they figured out what they needed, built it and lobbed stones at people. They could not adjust their catapult on the fly, most seige engines were built for a specific target, in a specific enviroment, with identical projectiles used.

Yeah, wagons cannot exist in adventure mode for whatever reason. As soon as you show up on the site and move, all of the wagons explode.

If you leave and come back, all of the wagon's contents are strewn across the town and free to pick up and sell. All of the items you traded in Fortress Mode will end up in whatever town was the closest and explode across the landscape in this fashion. Also, long-termed fortresses will result in tons of merchants and donkeys standings around human towns, elf forests and other dwarf towns.

Yeah, they won't even target or attack your dwarves once the seige/ ambush is broken unless you force them right next to each other or a friendly unit like a dog attacks them.

They will avoid combat and try to leave the map. They will not pick up any items.

fun fact: The pyramids of Eygpt orginaly had polished limestone blocks on their surface so they burned out people's retinas when they looked at them in the distance. The people dismanted the facade to use the limestone for constructing mosques so thats why the you have these staggered sandstone wrecks you see today.

Anyways, the temple of Iden MUST be a lighthouse. It doesn't matter if the sky isn't tall enough, or if it would be too fat around, a deity devoted to the sea should have a temple that is a lighthouse.

 Make the lighthouse partially underwater if its not epic enough. A Jesuschurch doesn't make sense.

Dark Necromancer sends some zombies and you bust them up, then he goes to war with you, then you just deal with zombie raids and grave-robbers trying to jack your champion bones, and after a while either he overwhelms you with zombie elves from another civ, or he runs out of mojo and stops attacking, or he participates in a battle personally and you stick an axe through his face, or you dispatch an ambush with your fancy military-arc interface to take him down, or some other civ topples his obsidian tower, or he sends a zombie liaison and you start trading him goblin chunks for bones, or whatever.

I like it, and I understand that the wheels are already in motion, so I'll just sit here and smile.

See, now that actually sounds pretty awesome. Becoming the enemy of a powerful wizard or demon or random warlord would be neat.

 Just having some overpowered goon in a room full of loot is stupid.