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This game looks interesting. I saw that there's 2 others on steam but none of them have demos so i'm wary of buying them.

I got SoC on Steam for $5, a while back. It's the only game I've bought recently that I didn't regret buying. However, every mod I've seen for it, despite the lavish praise I've seen here, is unimaginably horrible and will ruin the game forever for you. I haven't played since trying LURK because it was just that bad. I also got Clear Sky from a friend a few weeks ago, but it's still in a rar on my external, haven't gotten around to installing it yet, so I can't comment on that.

Blades is fail, anyways. Whips ftw.

i have 30 blades as a secondary and they are very not fail

That was just lighthearted bullshitting about the subjective merits of the different weapon types. :3

Yes, I know that you *can* do that. I was saying one *should* just kill him. He's significantly weaker than even orphans, with your bare hands he should die in two or three hits.

You can place a colony on any floating rock, and the only restriction to populating those colonies is gravity. Temperature and atmosphere aren't a hard boundary, but get even .1% outside your species' tolerance for gravity and it can't support anyone. :/

Now, temperature and pressure can drive up the colony cost so high it becomes effectively impossible to colonize, but there's not a hard limit saying "if it's hotter than X, you can't settle there". Both temperature and pressure can be changed through terraforming.

Not that I ever got that far, before finding the game so obnoxious and poorly designed that I stopped playing, but I did go through the tutorial, at least.

Personally, I mainly find myself using Zaeed or Garrus (as they're virtually identical functionally - do we really need two Infiltrators and two Infiltrator/Soldier hybrids?), or possibly Legion later on (just for flavour, he's comparatively useless). The second team member I usually pick at random - it still works, even on the harder settings, and I liked most of them characterwise.

Bah, Legion was amazing, if you upgrade his its rifle to a Widow. Given that NPCs have unlimited ammo and all. He It was awesome near the end, tearing through Scions and Harbingers.

The only time I ever had ammo problems was near the end of the Krogan loyalty mission. And that was just because I had to dump everything I had into the thresher in order to kill it, and had already used all the clips lying around.

Hell, late in the game I barely used any ammo, both because my team tore through most smaller enemies without much help from me, or because I cloaked, ran up next to the enemy line, and opened up with the tempest/avalanche. I don't think I depleted either of those to even half capacity. So the widow and handcannon usually wound up being used on the tougher shit that the team seems to completely ignore or otherwise be unable to aim at. Like Scions, Praetorians, and YMIRs. >:|

The widow can kill a scion in three shots. You could empty the first sniper rifle into it without seeing much effect. >:|

The avalanche is awesome for dealing with anything smaller than YMIR's. Not sure how well it works against enemies protected by barriers/shields/armor though. It kills husks outright, geth too, I think. And it has a massive ammo capacity, compared to the other weapons.

The collector laser was kind of shit, compared to... well, even the basic small arms you start with, really. The grenade launcher was ok, but its ammo capacity was too small to be really useful. The missile launcher was decent, but appropriate only for a small number of situations. The cain was useless. One shot, with a fucklong charge up time before firing, and a slow moving projectile. I'm not sure if you got another shot if you fully upgraded the heavy weapon cap, I was at 170% at the end, with four bought or researched and the +10% cap leg armor. Sure, it was a huge explosion, but there wasn't really anything that warranted giving up a more usable weapon just to have that along. Hell, a direct hit on the final boss only knocks off half its health. If you could get a direct hit, that is, given the aforementioned long charge up time and slow moving projectile, coupled with the boss' erratic movement.

Anyways, I do agree that the final boss was utter weaksauce. The whole game, building up to this, and then you take him out by literally shooting the shit out of it. No big chase scene, no kick-ass explosions and gut-wrenching death, just a bunch of shooting and fin.

How was that different from the first game's ending? You fight through a few halls in the citadel, then Saren either kills himself or you kill him, then he's possessed and you stand and shoot at him for a few minutes while he hops around not really doing anything to you.

However, the ending cutscene

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where you see ALL THE REAPERS HEADING TOWARDS THE MILKY WAY galaxy, had a feeling of oh-shitness this is a cliffhangar. So I felt good after saving the station. Not going to be able to save the galaxy from that fleet without a gun big enough to match theirs.

satisfied me somewhat. I do agree that ME1 had a great ending. This had a bit of a Halo 2 ending.

Were they actually moving towards the milky way, or just floating and staring at it like giant lost puppies of death?

Also, there wasn't exactly that much of a carry-through from ME1 to ME2 now that I think about it. Sure, your choices are mentioned, and people you... affected are brought back, but other than that, it's pretty much an entirely new game.

Almost every decision you could make in the first was at least mentioned, and considering both the sheer number and the relative triviality of most of them, that's more than I expected.

It is, however, almost entirely a new game. Not only are many basic mechanics changed, but a good portion of the background lore is retconned too. Like thermal clips. And quarians; I believe in the first game it was at least implied that they didn't wear the suits on their own ships, and the second has them living their whole lives inside bubbles because they're not on their homeworld? So the logic is, they have to wear the suits all the time because they have no immune systems because they wear the suits all the time because they're on spaceships. What the fuck. That's just... what the fuck. >:|

For ME3, I want a carry-through from the old game, with all my old equipment, the ability to get a shitload of armor again (I hate the fact that Shepard can't buy heavy/light armor anymore), and a wrapping up of the entire trilogy.

ME1's inventory system was horrible and clunky, and about 99% of the equipment you found was trash. There were only a couple of lines of armor worth using, and barely more weapon lines. While a little more variety in ME2's armor and weapons would have been nice, it was still a vast improvement.

Preferably including the entire team you have assembled from previous games and ME3, so you have an entire army of awesome.

Of which you can only use two at any time!