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Adding the [ITEM_THIEF] tag to them makes them much more survivable because they don't attack towns as much as grab loot and leave.  It should make them less deadly to civs as well.  Not as exciting history in world gen though.  [ITEM_THIEF] plus a high cluster number might get you a high amount of mega-beasts that are still alive and with civs remaining. 

[ITEM_THIEF] would make sense for dragons, since in most fantasy they love treasure and can't get enough of it. But I just had this mental image of a hundred-foot long dragon trying to hide behind a tree.

Dragons gathering magical artifacts would give us a reason to kill the bloody things. As is they're not much of a challange and they don't give us jack when we beat them.

You read a lot about dragons hoarding items in the legends pages but never anything useful 

Speaking of which, why do elves sell you animals?

What, are they too dumb to notice all the -Grizzly Bear Leather Tunic- lying around the fort?

Well, did you kill the goblin rulers?

When that happens, no more gobbos (from what I remember)

I can't bring myself to hate the elves too much. They brought my current fortress the three black bears needed to start a breeding population (which is now very large). This year they brought a freaking alligator. How can I stay mad at them?

You can think of elves as bringing stuff that's either awesome or impractical.

However +elf bone bolts+ are pretty practical.

Quote from: Vester on August 04, 2009, 08:01:59 am

A dead ruler is a dead ruler, sorry to say.

Also the consort exists for only one reason: to make dwarf babies. Consorts aren't actually royals, I think, even in real life.

In which case, instead of "Consort demands <level foo> Bedroom; <level bar> Dining Room; <level baz> Tomb", surely it should be "Noble demands <level ni!> Office; <level foo> Bedroom; <level bar> Dining Room; <level baz> Tomb, and <level foo> Bedroom; <level bar> Dining Room; <level baz> Tomb for my partner".

At the moment the consorts get unhappy about "lesser" dwafs getting too good a room, and seem to expect more or less the same rooms (all but the office) as their SO, at least for the married nobles I habitually cater for.  (Too lazy to check Wiki to ensure this is completely correct!)  And they get upset about other people's stations being over-catered for, so they must have at least some pretentions.

Not a totally serious suggestion, save that a demand of "my husband will have an armour stand in his bedroom", or even "I command you put a coffin in <random dwarfs> room" (as a present or a subtle warning?  who knows...) might be interesting.

Of course, a consort could have their own self-esteem non-issues (after all, nobles marry nobles, IRL), but every now and then you'd get a Mrs Simpson to your Urist McEdward, without the resulting abdication.

(Actually, have abdications been mentioned?  Or is 14thC politics a little too absent of "retire to [the|another] country potential in a "Noble 'til I die!" manner.)

Abdications? In DF? If abdication is another word for "spike trap", then yes.

You'd think the nobles would eventually realize that they have the highest turnover rate in any fort in any region ever. Typically the only "nobles" I have that survive are the appointed ones, because they're actually useful.

It would be cool if once a noble is dead, his/her corresponding consort would lose his/her profession and become a peasant/whatever their highest skill is.

So here's the questioney bit: does the king consort not take over the role of king? does the queen get replaced like my hammerers do? (where do they all COME from?)

The first hammerers were born when Armok's bloody beard hair shed onto the ground. 

Quote from: sonerohi on August 03, 2009, 08:50:18 pm

and alot of the guys, myself included, pitched in all our advice and skills to try and get him to be a date-able person, and then we pitched all our effort towards getting him to play the field and go date a different girl.

You know, I get the impression that that wasn't what he needed.

Sounds like he had serious problems aside from "can't get a date".

He sounds like he was creepy and obsessive. I hate guys like that. 

Also I just reread sonerohi's post.
You were protecting him and he tried to stab you for it?
God, that makes my overmanly male friends (and not-friends) seem almost normal.

Fortress started, working on it now. 

I couldn't add all the levels to vest's bone carving because of the 10 level restriction; she has competant bone carving and competant building designer, in addition to skilled mason.

Whooops I forgot about that! Well, it's no big deal, at least she gets to be useful.

I notice you changed the thread title. Obsidian sounds (and would look) a lot more impressive than regular granite.