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I de-equiped all my melee tonics, turned the difficulty up to hard and grabbed my sawn off double barrel drum magged shotgun. I then proceeded to pistol whip a bruiser to death without taking damage. Turns out that a mini boss with a crippling vulnerability to being circle strafed makes things rather anti climactic.

So far, the only scary bits are Eleanor's messages suddenly taking up the entire screen in a firefight, accidentally locking myself and a Big Sister in a 3x3 meter room and a well placed(and most likely non-scripted) ambush by an Alpha. All of the "corpses" that aren't really dead and picking up a piece of loot on the far side of an "empty" room that is very obviously a hostile choke point are completely stale this time around, especially with that camera able to tell you exactly what each body is and with a little practice, track a stealthed houdini.

"Defending" the little sisters consists of mining the hell out of her with trap rivets/spears and waiting.

Also, drill specialist, drill damage, drill vampire, sports boost, armored shell, some research and all of the "something touches you, nasty things happen to them" make a nearly unstoppable combo.

I uninstalled it when i found out that they were dumping extra units onto my HD every patch and then give me in game pop ups demanding money before letting me use them. I will not be purchasing Nap either.

Quote from: Asehujiko on February 08, 2010, 04:52:36 am

That game also suffered from having one overpowered character, one character overpowered in a different way and 4 useless ones. There's W+Q Delgado that kills everything but bosses and for the rare examples where he can't target anything, there's Black and her ammo free extra damage hyper agile bullet time redeemer sniper.

Really? I thought the genius and her boyfriend with the shotty were pretty good. I was looking forward to using them on the last boss, but...

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the designers didn't think they were worth being alive and killed them off. Delgado, Black, and SuperPriest were the only ones that could damage it.

Her abilities are to pump things full with a ton of bullets in a really short time and to cause explosions, something Delgado and Black can do better and at much greater distances. As for the albino afro american(afro british?), his shotty is inferior to the noobtube for spash damage, his rifle is inferior to the gatling gun for sustained dps and his ranged tele/pyrokinesis or ranged stun ball are less effective at taking enemies down then either remote controlled bullets or that goddamn homing missile dragon thing, not to mention incredibly sluggish to use.

Quote from: Cthulhu on February 07, 2010, 07:57:31 pm

Have quick time events been mentioned?  I know you guys hate quick time events.  They're kind of a hit-or-miss thing for me.  If they're so difficult you need to go through them for fifteen minutes memorizing the button combination (This post is directed at you, Jericho) then they completely destroy your immersion and ruin the game's pacing.  If they're easy, but not so easy you can't lose, they can be way better, and pretty intense, especially if it involves a lot of crazy dodging and well-choreographed combat (Jericho had this, but it was so hard you didn't get a good idea of what you were doing, which ruined it.

Hah. When you mentioned QTE, Jericho is the first thing that popped into my mind. I went so far as to download someone's save with all cheats unlocked and enabled the "automatically pass all quick-time events" one.

That game also suffered from having one overpowered character, one character overpowered in a different way and 4 useless ones. There's W+Q Delgado that kills everything but bosses and for the rare examples where he can't target anything, there's Black and her ammo free extra damage hyper agile bullet time redeemer sniper.

Well, firelaser.

Nice post time, by the way.




So should I have used any heavy weapons besides the laser?  The laser was cool, but I get the feeling it didn't do as much damage as other stuff.

If you can put up with 2 hours of not using it between each shot, the M920 Cain will serve as your end all be all answer to anything with more hitpoints then a YMIR mech.

Oh yeah, the boss.



I dunno, I kinda liked his laser.  It was a pretty cool laser.

Weak Point has a laser? Afaik he only breathes fire, knocks platforms out of the sky with his tail and summons more collectors, most of which die instantly because of the other two attacks.

Also, i imported a save i found on the internet because mine was gone after my Win 7 upgrade and it completely screwed up the sound. Radio chatter is inaudible, conversations are extremely quiet, in game speech fades out completely after a meter or two and hacking only has sound on one side of my headphones.

I downloaded the demo for the game, tried it out, found the interface horrible, tried to move to the next objective, got shot by something outside my draw distance, restarted, took cover, aimed in the direction of the dots on the compass that are supposed to represent enemies, got shot again without seeing them. Third time, i do see a few pixels which i guess were enemies, take out my marksman rifle with a scope, put the badly cluttered scope over the guy's chest and shoot. Dust cloud appears from behind him and the return fire injures me. While i am preoccupied with my very clunky health kit, something kills me despite being prone behind a wall. Another attempt, i slowly crawl forward and let my team do the shooting. I get shot and again I'm without indication on what saw me or how since I'm prone in grass and i didn't see any enemies on the horizon. I try something different, and hijack a car. Crawl up to a house with a car, get the notice that there's a support gunner 300 meters out, get shot before they finish talking. Was crawling uphill and I'm pretty sure that ridge isn't 300 meters away. Next time i make it to the house with the car. Spot somebody in the window. I get out of his los and riddle his thin wooden wall full of bullets. Get a hit indicator. Something shoots me and i don't know what. Sneak into house from another angle, sneak inside with a knife. Sneak behind a guy and stab him. He turns around and i drop dead before he fires a single bullet. Next try, i grenade the room. Grenade explodes, i walk in and die. Again, no idea what or how. Go to the forums, ask what I'm doing wrong. Most polite answer was "moron".

Is there anybody with more experience with the game that can tell me wtf is going on? And don't yell "realism" because invisible enemies shooting their SAW's accurately THROUGH a hill and a soldier with an evil glare that kills more efficiently then a knife in the back or a grenade is NOT realistic.