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Can't children deconstruct stuff too?

Try building some walls then locking the kids in and ordering them to deconstruct them.  I'm not sure if this trains mining or masonry.

I use a modular design of my own invention.

It's based around a 19*19 'district' surrounded by 3-wide hallways.  The 'district' is further divided into 4 8*8 'chambers'.  This allows me  to place up to 4 3*3 workshops and their surrounding raw material stockpile in each chamber, though I haven't actually done that yet.

I also put industries that will help each other close together.  The butchershop, tanner, and leatherworks are all in the same chamber.  In the chamber south of them is the bowyer's and bonecarver's workshops.  Directly to the east will be an indoor fishing area.  The last chamber is for finished goods storage.  Conveniently north of all that is the dining room.  And above that is the cooking and food storage districts.

Alas, I do not use Z levels to their full potential but I do pretty well for myself anyway.

Here's a picture of myexample.  I have labeled it awfully using paint.  If anyone needs me I'll be off getting a decent image editing software.

The problem is that dwarfs can't (or really don't like to?) build diagonally.  They need to be on one of the four sides.  I had the same problem and I tried everything.  I guess you should build the corners first.

At least your dwarf won't die of a cough.

Are you sure you didn't just sell them some small clothes already?  They'll appear the same way as the goods the elves normally sell.

It's a glitch, you can't do anything about it.


Edit: http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Demand
There's a small bit on the glitch in the wiki and more on the discussion page.
Essentially it looks like the bug is that they want something that cannot exist.  Like a potash table.

Anyway if you just ignore it, they'll get mad but they'll probably get over it.

He is pretty awesome.  He's my leader/trader/bookkeeper along with other miscellaneous tasks.  At the time he was designing glass furnaces for sand collecting and showing around a diplomat.   It's too bad it wasn't an elf treehugger.

Urist McMayor: So, here you see our temporary glass manufacturing district.  I believe you'll like the fact that we use magma to heat our furnaces instead of wasting precious trees.
Elfy Treehugger: Yet you still destroy the trees for your beds, bins, and barrels.  Perhaps...
A fireball whizs overhead

McMayor: Kindly excuse me a moment.
Urist tackles a fire imp and throws it to the ground.  Another fire imp sneaks up behind him and shoots a fireball at his back.
McMayor: FOOL, YOU'VE ONLY MADE ME ANGRY
Urist grabs the second fire imp and slams him into the first one until they both die.  He then briefly pauses to enter a note onto his bookkeeping tablet.

McMayor: Now where were we,  Ah yes, you wished to discuss trees?
TreeHugger: Well yes, uh, I ... I mean we ... we Elves and such ... were thinking that maybe you could sort of cut fewer trees.  Maybe 20?
McMayor: ...
TreeHugger: thousand?
McMayor: A limit of 20,000 trees sounds rather reasonable.  Come, we must commemorate our agreement with a feast.  We plenty of plump helmets, plump helmet wine, plump helmet biscuits, plump helmet stew, and plump helmet roasts.  Perhaps I shall talk you into bringing some of those sunberries on the next caravan.

I need some help designing an underground magma workshop district.  I have tried before, with poor !!results!!.  Long story short, I confused down and up, among other things.

Here's a picture of my current design.


That blue dot is where the screw pump is going to be.  I'm almost certain that I shouldn't be channeling directly into the magma pipe.  Should I mine 1z level down instead?  How do I get my miner down?  How do I get her back up?  Does magma move diagonally at the same speed as orthogonally?  Where should I put grates and floodgates, can I make them out of normal stone or glass?  Should I?  Is there any danger to walking over a magma channel on a grate? if a magma workshop is over a magma tile but the magma tile is covered by a grate will the workshop function?  Do I have to worry about magma critters?

Really any advice about magma workshopping would be great.

About my design:  This is a modified version of my design for the rest of my fortress.  There's 4 8*8 rooms in each section, each section is separated by 3 wide hallways.  Each room has 4 doors on each side(48 per section), which keeps my mason employed.  In the magma design, each room has channels around the outside along with channels to pass magma to each other.

Is there a way to find all these names from fortress mode?