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Now the question to blow your mind:  Will it be able to play Dwarf Fortess?!

If you had a large enough embark perhaps. The hard part would be that the graphics are basically limited to hatches covering magma, water or nothing in either the open or closed state.

Well no I lie, the hard part would be everything. But apart from that, simplicity itself.

I wonder when will the ETHIC tags become caste-level...

Probably never, as having civilisation-level tags at caste-level doesn't really make sense.

Quote from: James on February 23, 2010, 01:45:19 am

Having worldgen generate the legends page in a wiki format sounds

1. Awesome
2. Like a lot of work

Its something I would love to see done, but it sounds more appropriate as a fan-project than something Toady should spend his time on. Does anyone out there have a solid idea of how do-able this is?

One of the requests that Toady might (or might not) have time to implement in this release is exporting legends to XML.  From there it'll be straightforward.

It is difficult to properly express  how awesome that would be.

Maybe you should try being less rude.

Craziness, that would never work!

Quote from: MC Dirty on February 21, 2010, 05:41:53 pm

Quote from: Loyal on February 20, 2010, 09:52:09 pm

You're planning to accumulate kills in a controlled environment and you think he'd be comparable to Tholtig?

You obviously don't get the idea of this project. It's not about being "better" than Tholtig. If you would actually read the opening post, you'll see that there is not a single phrase indicating something about being "better" than Tholtig.
It's about getting more kills. Nothing more, nothing less.

Let's recall, Tholtig wasn't an in-game dwarf - she was a historical figure that got produced during Worldgen.  There's no telling whether or not it's even _possible_ to accomplish what she did during gameplay.  As has been pointed out, the chances of a random stray arrow doing critical damage in game are fairly high over such a long history.  I'm going to go ahead and suggest that the combat calculations are vastly simplified during worldgen, which likely contributes to careers like this.

Still, it's certainly an epic project.  2500 is a _lot_ of kills, even if they are orchestrated.  I'm inclined to say _especially_ if they are orchestrated, given all the extra time that would take, setting up each kill individually.

Toady actually posted the combat calculations at one point, and I think they're for 40d.
This is only for non-critical melee hits. Essentially, a bad luck roll (note that toughness is factored in randomly, not totally) means that even your badass warrior might get stomped by a kobold (it's just very, very unlikely, and pretty much requires them to go berserk).

Of course, if your toughness is high enough you'll probably survive it. Morul survives being hit by a ballista, which is an instagib on everything from cows to dragons. He regens every wound less than yellow instantly, and is barely hampered by even red injuries. And Morul isn't even the most awesome of warriors, as his creator had to spend a lot of time doing the slow and boring trapping work (among other tedious tasks), so his toughness is only 78 or something.

Get a powerful enough dwarf this version (before attribute caps next version) and you won't die to anything unless you have terrible luck.

Quote from: tfaal on February 20, 2010, 02:20:22 am

Murder is already kind of in, by way of the fell mood.

That's what I meant by "non event-caused"

"UristMcRich cancels job: Something is missing!"
That will be fun!

And when prosthetics are in together with theft we will get "Urist McAmputee cancels eat: Too Injured".

Also, playing as goblins would be vastly more awesome. Murder and theft would actually be fairly common.

Quote from: madjoe5 on February 19, 2010, 01:14:11 am

Quote from: SkyRender on February 18, 2010, 02:55:23 pm

Have you SEEN the Mountainhomes?  Go explore one as an adventurer some time, and you'll understand why so many Dwarves are flocking to your fortress all the time regardless of how appropriate their profession is.  Being deadweight that has to be re-trained is still miles ahead of being a resident of a non-player-designed Mountainhome.

 Put it this way: would you rather have to re-define your entire existence to live in a place where you get a cheap wooden cot to sleep on and a communal dining room to eat in, or would you prefer sleeping on cold stone and eating vermin for the rest of your life while never even doing any work (trained or otherwise) unless you happen to be a soldier?  THAT is why there's a bajillion migrants without any useful skills dying to get into your fort.

This.

Also remember that dwarves complain about not doing work.

My problem is still this
Coming to my fort= almost certain death
Mountain home= boredom
Almost Certain death !> boredom

The question is, do they know that their immigration is probably soon to be followed by death, or do they immigrate in naivety? Dwarven caravans pretty much base the tales they tell to the mountainhome on your fortress wealth versus the number of deaths that year. So if your population is small, you have to lose a huge percentage of it for people to be adequately deterred. And the only three ways to drive down wealth are trading, atomsmashing and letting things be stolen.

I like to send dwarves crazy by putting their first masterwork outside for a year. If it gets stolen the dwarf loses their marbles (at least unless they've made many more masterworks by then), and if it doesn't then they get to keep working.