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One easy way to see if the Ruler got killed is to check your (c)iv screen - if he's dead, he won't be in the list anymore.

He is definitely dead, and has been replaced with a different ruler.  He also shows up dead on my units screen and I've even found his corpse.  My question was "Who killed him?" and after probably 30 minutes of searching the kills on my living and dead soldiers I couldn't find his name.  So... he had to have been killed by a dog.

4th Galena, 206, Late Summer
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"Zon, I don't like being led around like this!"

"You can open your eyes in a second, Asob!  I want you to be surprised."

"This better be good, if you really think it's going to be enough for me to forgive you!"

"I promise.  And... we're here!  Open your--"

"I could smell the bestiary from 20 Urists away."

"...Congratulations, you ruined the surprise!  Open your eyes, already!"

Asob opened her eyes, and was greeted to my... err, apology.


"...Um, what am I looking at here?"

"The bestiary, of course!  The giant eagle and her chicks are here, and so is the cougar and the two wolves.  But!  I've just added a grizzly bear to the north wall, and restrained a deer right in the center of the room, between all the dangerous predators!"

"..."

"...Well?"

"No."

"What?  No, see, it's an artistic expression!  The irony is that they're all tame, so while they aren't going to hurt each other, you can see the hunger in their eyes!  Don't mind the horse and the groundhogs, they kind of just wandered in on their own. "

"You're horrible."

I sigh.  "There's just no pleasing you, is there?"

"You're horrible."

I throw my hands up.  "At least Inod likes it... I thought you'd appreciate my modifications to your art, like with the obsidian."

"But see, that's why you're horrible... at understanding art!"

"...Beg pardon?"

"See, it's obvious you were trying to modify my work again because it worked the first time!  And it's obvious you were going for dramatic irony with a twist on the 'Circle of Life' - sorry, Zon, but the great artist Odil Rigòthishen already beat you to it.  And when art is obvious, it isn't any good."

"Odil Craftpassions, huh?  Wait a second... Rigòthishen?  Is she related to--"

"Fikod Rigòthishen, our miner!  So, you're starting to regain that compassion for your fellow dwarf!  I can't fault you for not having a great aesthetic sensitivity, big deal.  You tried, and I appreciate the gesture.  I forgive you, Zon!"

"Great!  Now then... how are we doing with the fountain project?"

"We need more grates.  The masons are all being slow about it, on account of their attention being divided by the giant eagle roost."

"Ah, right... that.  Well, we'll just power away at those in the meantime."

"Oh!  Do you want to hear my first mandate?"

"What?  Oh, right!  I forgot to congratulate you on being elected mayor."

"Thank you!  My first act as mayor: Export of beds is prohibited!"

"...Beds, huh.  Well.  I guess you should make sure a certain broker knows that!"

"That's me, silly.  Or did you forget?"

"...No, I knew.  I was making a joke."

"Ugh!  Your jokes are worse than Unib's!"

Unib.  Now there's a name I hadn't heard in a while.  Now that Asob is mayor, she'll get the special treat of meeting the merchant liaison of The Swift Arches.  I wonder about her... is she still on her plot to uncover what we're doing here?  The King himself is here to oversee the mission!  Would she really dare continue her investigation right under his nose?

((Commentary))

Any items "under" a bridge when it lowers get obliterated. Items flung by a bridge that hit a wall simply stop and fall. I don't think items traverse Z-levels when they get flung, so the height of the wall shouldn't matter.

Actually, it does go up at least one z-level.  Note that there is no access to the items in the POI.  The drawbridge that flung these items is 1 z-level down from these items.

Also, water indeed pushes objects, such as sweeping a baron off a precarious ledge.  My understanding of fluid is that an object will be pushed, but only if water can move from one tile to an adjacent one.  That's an extremely over-simplified statement that isn't necessarily always true, I know, so someone else should better explain it.

Well, you can search for areas with an aquifer, so why not?  It adds to the challenge, at least.

I really like this suggestion because it solves one of the game's late-game problems.  It's previously been suggested that more buildings requiring multiple pieces be implemented to add to the late-game experience (sorry, not enough time during my lunch break to go thread hunting).  Based on the diagram above, I see an organ requiring the following constructed pieces:

-Keyboard
-Pipe Array
-3 Mechanisms
*Requires throne to be placed in front of keyboard
*Requires access to pressurized air to function.  This can be achieved with the following new construction:
-Air Pump (requiring 1 Block, 1 Pipe section, 1 Giant Fan (new trap component)

-Keyboard: Aside from the mechanisms, this is the simplest component.  It requires only 1 wood, stone, metal, bone, or shell and can be created in the Craftsdwarf's shop.
-Pipe Array: This is different from a Pipe section and represents a range of pipe sizes.  It makes no sense to use Pipe Sections here since each pipe can range anywhere between a few inches to 30 feet.  Obviously, each of these pipes require different amounts of resources, and only metal.  Most of the smaller notes could be done with a single bar, a second would get some of the mid-range, and you'd probably need at least two more for the largest pipes.  For simplicity's sake, we can call it 3 bars
-Air Pump: I think this would be a great new addition to the game.  On its own, it opens the door to all kinds of new dwarven designs, like hydraulics, pressurized air cannons, elevators... etc.  The reason for adding the Giant Fan Blade as a new trap component rather than using the Giant Corkscrew which is already used for a liquid pump is to confirm with the user that they know what they're constructing.  I'd hate to screw up the design by accidentally creating a liquid pump because both pumps require the same components!

You would also need to make special design considerations for allowing the passage of air through the organ.

Now, for creating larger, more grandiose organs, I think the best way to implement this would be to create multiple organs, and add an option to the organ construction to "Link to Another Organ."  This would require two more mechanisms, and the end effect is a more valuable organ construction, plus you could link together as many as you want.  And, the more you connect, the louder it gets.

Quote from: KenboCalrissian on November 16, 2009, 01:17:15 pm

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Yes, I'm still miffed about the "minimal leakage" claim in the pump stack section.  That claim cost me three dwarves, and it would have cost me an entire 10-year old fortress had I not prepared for it with dual emergency shut-off levers.

What?  I don't see that anywhere.

That's because I fixed it today   Check the file history.

That's because we had one player disappear, and the other run his turn through with very little reporting.

Very little reporting?  Sheesh!  Talk about gratitude...