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He doesn't.  End of discussion.

This is no less than the third time I've seen you shoot down ideas in precisely that same fashion. (perhaps not chronologically. I'm not looking up the other posts to compare time-stamps) Now, was there at some point a Word-of-God post by Toady One stating that there were certain things he was just nixing completely? Is there a handy reference chart somewhere? If there is, can someone link me to it, because it would save us all a lot of time and effort discussing impossibilities if you'd just kindly offer the direct link you seem to have to the "No way in Hell" center of Toady's brain.


On another note, the MP siege the fortress idea might be feasable after the army arc goes in. the idea that you can send an army against the populated fort of another user isn't all that different than the idea that you could send a siege against a goblin citadel. A directory for siegable locations in the save directory could be used, and a modified embark screen accessed from the main menu could deal with the points thing that was discussed. Online support isn't even necessary for this, just email a save file, and away you go. Yeah, that means there's no high-score list, and no real-time competition, and no "extra embark points for taking on a fort which has been successfully defended multiple times," but it's still a way to match wits with your friends, and in this incarnation, takes very little (comparatively speaking, if I understand the army arc) in the way of earth-shattering code revision.

I think it would be just as useful to mint chits, and designate a bank. the bank vault keeps the money, and every dwarf gets a chit.

kind of like a debit card.

A subset of the DF community seems to be very interested in doing odd precision mechanical things with water. Sadly, water behaves in a somewhat random fashion, and mechanisms which are currently used to control water often destroy portions of it, rendering many sensitive tasks unnecessarily difficult.

I propose the following changes and additions:

* remove random behavior from water entirely, except where there is no other option. I've seen people state that water does not update every tick. please make to do so?

* allow the construction of shallow grades to direct small amounts of water in a large, otherwise flat area.

* closing floodgates and doors, and lowering drawbridges, should be changed so that they move water to either side rather than destroying it. In addition, you might allow us to designate on construction of floodgates to which side they will move said water.

* More constructions to regulate water flow. I'd like to see, for instance,  something that would allow only one unit of water per tick to drop through a floor tile into the next z-level, regardless of how much water is on top of it.

* on a (much) less urgent note, I'd like to be able to loft water. graceful arcs cris-crossing over the drawbridge into my fortress just seems  awesome.

* A water-table could be added, making lower levels harder to mine out without pumping. this could change over time with rainfall, and generally would change what a good starting area would look like, as well as encouraging players to become comfortable with mechanics.

* allow a designation to clean surfaces. perhaps this could require soap. This way muddy tiles can be unmuddied quickly if we so desire.


Sorry if any of this has been gone over already. I couldn't get a meaningful result out of the search, because, you know, "water," That doesn't return a metric dwarfload of threads 

Ah, I knock out wall sections for that. Since the entire thing is constructed to begin with, that's pretty trivial to do. Since you don't need to follow any real rules when it comes to placing floors, you can make a pretty impressive power plant on top of the tower.  leave two floors, one for the gears and axles, and one for the windmills. you can then consolidate the power with axles and whatnot, and run it down the middle of the tower.

Again, this requires a fair bit more power than the really efficient one on the wiki.

OK, is anyone else tempted to place a 1-tile custom booze stockpile in any space they plan to enclose? I mean, if my dwarfs are going to insist that the proper place to stand when bricking something up is inside of said thing, then I'd at least like to get  some sort of referential humor out of it.

EDIT: Oh, right, the gameplay discussion part. Is there a way to reliably keep the little retards from doing this? I've tried designating the outside as a high traffic area, and the inside as a no dwarf zone, but no dice. the only thing I've found that works so far is to have the other side of teh wall be a gaping hole, and that's simply not always practical.

OK, I've nothing to contribute to this but I swear, when I saw this topic, I totally thought the body of it was going to read thusly:

"Me: 3 foot 4. Adequate Beard. Enjoys Dwarven Wine, long walks in the Statue Gardens, Malachite and cows for their haunting moos.

You: A block of Rose Gold. Dully Shiny. Abnormally pink.

Let's make something beautiful together!"

OK, so I'm working on building a water-calendar. It's a complex set-up of different sized chambers, floodgates, pumps, windmills, and whatnot. When finished, I'm hoping to have it run  to final state once per year. I designed the whole thing on paper before I knew how most of the pieces worked, and despite having managed to get the first bit operational (a corkscrew-shaped pump tower powered by windmills) I'm not optimistic about the rest.

Basically, water seems to move predictably and very quickly, or at a crawl and intermittently. Am I right? I need a way to move water slowly in a closed system, and once the device is completed, there needs to be no dwarfish element, because I need the system not to stop working for any period of time. there there a way to slow down the flow of water, and keep the flow predictable?

Also, I know that multiple devices can be attached to one lever or pressure plate, but can a device require, for instance, that three separate pressure plates exist in a triggered state in order to function?

Finally, I'm worried about evaporation. Will water evaporate in a closed system i.e. with no access to outside air?

Also in case you don't know:
1) This should go to a modding forum, but because you're already here, ask any questions you need about changing your raws, I will answer.

Had I initially had a question about modding, I'd have tossed this there. My apologies for muddying up the forum with thread drift, I suppose.