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wasd and arrow keys moves the camera...
Also, nice game!

Who here bought TA:K and got sorely disappointed?

I've never played it, but I heard TA:K is not so bad actually. It has nothing to do with original TA and is step back in some directions, but sides are supposed to be quite unique and t plays decently enough.
So I heard.
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Guess you heard wrong
I was a huge TA fan back then, and i got so disappointed.
but i dare you, go ahead into some of shady places on the internets and find TA:K, and tell me what you think.

And almost every unit in TA could at least try to hit any other units... artillery had a small chance of killing aircraft, bombers could hit fighters passing below them.
Lot's of units had projectile based attacks so the move speed of a unit was a very important defensive measure.
And small, fast, close ranged units had a chance to work, as their fallen brethren formed at wall that they could hide against while advancing.

Oh i loved that game so much!

The manually mined ones with block breakers.
But it's not the mining that is the problem, rather it's the colliding of liquids.
so using the other method that you use, does not generate lag.
This actually led to TN banning block breakers, on the grounds that people would not stop making cobble generators.
Disabling UU i feel is a much better choice though.

Cobble-stone generators kills the server, i thought they were generally banned?

Still holding out for last minut donation

I had thought about that, and it would indeed be quite a lot of fun. That's one reason I won't be disabling frames and frame equipment. I do, however, think they should be special and rare, not knocked together on a whim and thrown into battle. It should hurt when your airship is destroyed, not feel like "Eh I'll just wait till my frame quarry digs out another 12 chunks and make two more airships whatever"

This was a few pages back, but caught my eye.
When my airship gets destroyed  it does hurt, and it would still hurt if i made it for free.
why? because i invested a lot of time building it.
The true cost of anything in minecraft should be calculated as Cost=Buildtime+Miningtime+Craftingtime.
so even if we take out the miningtime from the equation, frameships is a huge investment.


And that why you should not restrict frameships, but rather restrict the block breaker.
It's the most simple way to control frame quarries, and it only requires you to restrict one block.

If the block breaker is just expensive enough, UU generation is removed, and teleport tethers are restricted, it would make frame quarries much more limited, even to the point that it could be balanced.

Our ridiculously large frame quarry(it has 2 rows of block breakers from the surface to bedrock!) does not really mine that much ore, let alone diamonds. The thing that makes it OP is that it digs so much cobble, that can be turned to UU that can be turned into anything.
Without UU our miner would be much weaker. And it would have slightly less than 250 block breakers if the were restricted(or just required diamond pickaxe.... why does it only need an iron one? Eloraam!!!!)