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Having dwarfs use a very primitive sort of caisson, just an open topped wooden box as far as the bit in the water goes, would be more appropriate for the scale of the game. Having an in game version be crude and leaky would be a good way to emphasise that it's supposed to be a temporary structure. Let water fall into the dry space occasionally, just fast enough that you can't rely on evaporation to take care of it. The bigger and more watertight types are better represented by normal constructed walls, I think.

I'm imagining it being a bit like the game's bridges, something that must be built on the edge of water, a structure that can be raised and lowered at the pull of a lever. The structure as you build it in game would be a combination of watertight box, crane, counterweight, pulley... This way it could be removed and dismantled once the underwater work was done without leaving all the components stuck underwater.

I can't tell from the screenshots how deep down our corpses are. If it's only one layer down from the main fort then it could work. You could even dismantle the depot and build some walls to stop the pump operator from being washed away or drowned, and channel all the water outside.

Sigh...

I lasted less than two weeks before drowning? You'll get better results if you use stairs instead of channelling ramps to go down. Stairs give you a chance to see down before dropping into it, not that it'll do us much good now.

Replacement dwarf please, when possible. When migrants come, give one of them animal trainer and trapper labours and name them Tannen.

I agree with this both on accuracy grounds (it can be a fantasy game and a history lesson in one, they're not incompatible) and on practical grounds.

A lot of the things dwarfs do with bags just need a container, not a flexible cloth container in particular. The hassle involved in making the bags is usually not worth it for the end result. I know that I never bother with flour until a few years into the game when the traders have brought along some bags with them.

There wouldn't be any point including it if all it did was add more hauling jobs in the name of realism.

I think you would need incentive to do more than just designate a toilet zone, make dwarfs wade through it to relieve themselves, and make up for the unpleasant experience with a magnificent dining hall.

The only way it could be made useful enough to be worth including in the game is if you could send sewage off to a settling tank workshop to have it compressed down into blocks which you can then further refine in a smelter to get another form of fuel.

Resurrecting this ancient thread because I've got the same problem. I've built a tower on a permanantly freezing location, it's full of snow, I want it not to be. There's no room for magma in the design. Is there any way to melt the snow if I'm willing to cheat to do it and use memory hacking and/or modding?

We've already got a system for gods rotating out. Maybe we could take a vote on a new Armok too, if rubberduck wants out.