Yeah
Even when Vimes gives in a little bit to the berserker rage of The Summoning Dark, he still retains sufficient control that he doesn't kill anyone.
Actually, that's not true. He DOES in fact, kill quite a few of the dwarven guards who actively attack him. He refrains from killing the grag's.[/i]
And Vimes COULD be included. But we'd have to make it so that he ONLY ever imprisoned people, or killed maniacs in self defense. He couldn't be a warrior unit.
Hm...... it would seem that finally..
In the latest book, Unseen academicals:[spoiler]there are now orcs, and the kick major ass.
they learn incredibly fast, are incredibly smart, and can rip off a guys head with their bare hands.
not to mention being able to extimate the exact amount of force needed to:
a: mereley break the neck
b: actually sever it entireley (this is the hard bit)
also, they are modified humans, built as war machines by the evil emperor's Igor minions.
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There are orcs now? The hell? And an Igor who's an EMPEROR?! o_O? Also, Wiki says that goblins bred them... which makes no real sense, since goblins, gnomes, and pictsies are all the same species really... and never once has there been evidence of them having the kind of alchemical prowess to make things like the orcs... of course, one of the big points of Diskworld is the whole making fun of preconceived notions of "races have defined skills and such" so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised when he throws out goblins/gnomes/pictsies who built an alchemical race. I wonder if vetinari knows the truth...