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Mafia / Re: Magic Mafia - Day 2: Coal In All Y'alls Stockings
« on: April 24, 2013, 03:02:55 pm »Nights last 24 hours or whenever all the actions are sent in.It's been over 48 hours-- the night is over. Are you still alive, Wuba?
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Nights last 24 hours or whenever all the actions are sent in.It's been over 48 hours-- the night is over. Are you still alive, Wuba?
Not sure what to think yet. I'll wait and see if anyone claims the action before drawing any strong suspicions, but it is eyebrow raising. He says he has a power now, so we can be pretty certain now that candles give you knew powers. My guess is the nature of each person's potential power is based on their god.
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Well, we know one of your abilities pretty much verbatim now (Cupid's Arrows), and at least part of another (Protect from kills from lovers, however if you are scum this could be fake). So I don't have any idea what your third ability is. A charm spell that protects from ability inspects is completely fitting with your role claim. Also in a strange coincidence, you were one of three people (Ranger, yourself, and I) who didn't claim "I am town" in response to Toaster saying everyone should claim.Okay, anyone could have a godfather-type ability- so inspects should be taken with a pinch of salt. As for the town declaration thing: the thread is so large- I think I skim read that one. I have no problem saying that I am town. I am town. Well, you know that you-me-Ranger aren't the scum team. Why didn't you say it?
So why did you choose not to say "I am town"?
Then there's the problem of your assertion that Vector targeted Zrk2. Firstly you backed down rather quickly saying that what you knew was that "If she targeted someone she targeted Zrk2". Okay... odd by itself. You also said you "may have heard it from another players ability". Again odd... But then Zrk2 flipped as a magimancer. We don't know what his abilities were, but that role PROBABLY had redirects galore, and may have had some form of magnet ability (possibly with a kill attached, I know I've seen a role like that before, something about a gas giant?). Did you know he targeted Vector with such an ability last night by any chance?I wasn't backing down- I was being as specific as possible to maximise the possible helpfulness of the claim. It's possible that Zrk2 was some kind of Saturn-killer, and that Vector would have been killed had she have taken any action in the night, but it's just idle speculation. The information didn't turn out as useful as I'd hoped, but then I couldn't have known either way if I hadn't have said something. Perhaps tomorrow will bring us more helpful insights.
Why were you hoping for "an inspect" rather than "someone to confirm your story"?An inspect is merely the most common way of confirming someone's trustworthiness. I know I've been making the boldest claims in this game, and so naturally I want people to feel more confident that this isn't a bizarre scum ploy. I almost said to town earlier 'inspect me if you don't believe me' but I didn't want to seem too keen in case anyone thought I had a godfather ability on top of everything else.
Well, it seems you see the light.I don't think Ranger is a good choice. Obviously, him flipping town would do wonders for my credibility but that's a pretty awful reason for lynching someone. I've looked back on his interactions with Zrk2 and I'm not reading it as scum distancing. Have a look yourself though. Not sure who I'd rather lynch at this stage-- I'm still rereading in light of the flip.
You have a day and a night, at least.
Now... what do you think of lynching Ranger? Or who would you rather lynch instead?
It's an interesting point, but perhaps revealing the lovers would help both scum and town. If a lover is scum, then town might be more reticent to lynch them as they know they'll be lynching two people. Obviously, though the reverse is true: if the lovers are both town, scum would want to know who they are so they can get a free double-kill.Zrk, a mafia, told NQT to reveal the lovers. Could this mean they're not actually scum, or is he using WIFOM?- I am immune to kills from my lovers picks. I omitted this information before to set this trap. Now that there's been no night kill it strongly confirms my suspicions: there's a high chance that one of my lovers tried to kill me last night. A scum or 3rd party lover would have a massive incentive to kill me before I was able to reveal who they were.If you think it's so likely that they're scum then maybe you should tell us who they are. This little magic act grows tiresome.
A Proposition: If any player is about to be lynched, maybe they should do a full claim at the last second if possible. That way, if they flip town, we have a lot more information.I've already prepared my death note for that eventuality, but let's try to avoid lynching people just so they spill the beans.
Anyone we now know are going to die (unless we can protect)?Nope. Both the lovers are still alive.
[snip]Uh, I think I might be missing a step in your reasoning. You assume there might be at most three scum, and then later you seem to take it as fact that there are three scum. You're saying you think there's a fair chance because of XYZ that I might be scum and my fate and Ranger's are interlinked. Sure, if I'm scum then Ranger must be- I'd agree with you so far. You're holding me to ransom with the threat of poisoning, what do you want from me Toly K?
So. NQT. You get me?
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I can't keep up with this game.
One of the things that NQT might want to know is that he is about to die, at the end of the day, and I'm still not sure about saving him, though I'm leaning towards that.When I read this earlier, I scanned past and just thought you were saying I was vote leader for the lynch and I didn't think much of it. Then I reread and saw what you were saying!